2016-03-05, 01:57 PM
Silvarien Wrote:Bernie Sanders' salary:
http://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/...or-salary/
And his career in Washington, according to his own website:
https://berniesanders.com/about/
Bernie Sanders makes 174,000 a year. He has been in Congress for 16 years, and then another 10 in the Senate. 26 years in Washington's highest posts and with a salary like that, and you actually regard him as not-a-career-politician and as outsider? Yes, it IS a crock of sh ' t: it is the eternal self-con, "all politicians are scum except for the one I voted for." You're doing the same thing as Trump supporters who scoff at the notion of HIM being scum. You're just getting behind the scumbag YOU happen to like.
The US Senate is probably the most prestigious grouping in the world. You have some above them -- Supreme Court, and the Presidency, but a US Senator is not in there with a cheap suit on his body, nor is he winning elections on used toilet paper. Bernie Sanders, whatever he may portray himself to you as, has money for campaigning, simply because without such money he wouldn't be able to get his message across his electorate and win elections. He also knows how to campaign, simply because if he didn't, other ruthless politicians would have taken his seat from him. American politics are pay-to-win. It's not a "free" game, just as Maple is not a "free" game. To get stuff done in Congress and Senate, you have to compromise constantly, do shady-backroom-deals, take and give money under the table, etc. If you do not do this -- you have no voice, no victories, and no re-elections. And he sure as hell has had his share of re-elections.
"Normal people" running for high office is nothing new. Jesse Ventura was Governor of Minnesota on precisely the same premise, and both he and his electorate discovered that normal people don't do very well in politics. Bernie Sanders has been in office for a hell of a lot longer than Ventura managed it, precisely because he is a career politician. All effective politicians -- Bernie Sanders included -- have a particular type of personality whereby they seem like a "class act" to attract voters such as yourself, but that is a velvet glove over the steel fist of ruthlessness and pragmatism, whereby they steam-roll over competition to get their way in the actual Senate full of people just like themselves.
The problem with most of your arguments is assumptions of people. You based your entire argument on a salary. Do you know why Mr. Sanders is regarded as an outsider? It isn't because he isn't apart of the system, but rather his opinions/issues GREATLY differ and his record shows that. Hilary is the polar opposite as she follows poll numbers, like literally her opinion is completely based on whats popular. If Sanders has one thing, it's conviction in his stances, he's genuinely looking to break up big companies such as pharmaceutical companies and trying to create affordable college. Those are things my generation needs and wants. I personally admire his convictions and appreciate them, but in today's current meta I don't think they are plausible.
Most of your opinions try to print a face on an individual because you can't argue idea's, you try to argue perceptions. I'm sure you are that obnoxious person in real life that tries to discredit arguments based on what a person is wearing, or their assumed opinionated stances. It's disingenuous, that's why people won't argue with you, you're the only one that has something to prove, apparently.