2016-03-05, 12:18 AM
Satellite Wrote:"Radical things" he's proposing are common sense in countries like Sweden, Denmark, Norway and here in Finland. Care to tell me again why "socialism" is the most terrifying thing, when last time I checked all 4 countries score above USA in metrics like education, healthcare, corruption, human rights etc.?
Yes, your taxes will be a little higher but I would imagine it's also getting expensive dealing with your homeless people problem, paying for 1% of your population that are in jail and spending way more on military than any country on earth while still failing your wars.
The system barely works there, in a country several orders of magnitude larger it could not work. A good metaphor is this; games net coded for smaller countries like Korea and Japan usually have terrible lag issues here in the states, because they are designed with a much smaller area and server load in mind. Imagine that now on a national scale. It might be tolerable there but it would collapse our entire system in under a decade, which we don't need any help with; the only reason we are even still a country is because of the "too big to fail" mentality, the US should have been foreclosed upon around the start of this decade, our debts to the rest of the world cannot be repaid, the world knows this, and the second the country shows any weakness whatsoever it will be torn apart and sold to the highest bidder, and to be honest, it's precisely what we deserve.
Justin Wrote:The military spending absolutely needs to be severely cut or flat out dropped. It is unreal how much we prioritize stupid weapons and fighting pointless wars when back at home we're slowly getting worse and worse. We need universal healthcare, we need better education and schools, we need a whole hell of a lot more than what we have now. We're turning into a country of idiots who care more about what the Kardashians did on television than what our own damn futures have in store.Military spending is very important, unfortunately; the only messages most understand are threats, because everyone that gets to a high level in the government of any country has an insurmountably large ego and the pride to match it, they will not be civil unless they are 100% sure they will be absolutely annihilated if they are not. That's our world, and I would prefer the US in this position over China and Russia, the only other two that have a shot at being the "global watchdog", and understand, there absolutely has to be one country that is much stronger than the rest or every country will devolve into bickering children destroying one another, you can't trust humans with anything, you have to control them, that's the pomegranatety truth about us.
Satellite Wrote:However, The BIGGEST reason US and the world for that matter need Bernie is because big corporations and billionaires should NOT be able to buy elections. I think that's a travesty of democracy and ultimately it has terrible consequences. Lets take take oil lobbyists for instance, they're trying to destroy the climate of this planet for their personal gains and making sure that US continues to support tyrannies like Saudi Arabia, no better than the communists that killed my and your relatives. Different ideology (Islamic Wahhabism), but extremist and undemocratic one either way.
The most frightening thing in this entire election is that I consider Bernie to be the best candidate, simply because he would be easy for Congress to counter as he is not a liar. He is very straightforward and for the most part from what I've seen he is honest, and politics are such that he would be very easy to deal with and nullify most of the dumb decisions he would inevitably make. Trump would bulldoze through Congress and do pomegranate with or without approval until his impeachment, and Hillary is a LYING GODDAMN WHORE whom may not even be in the running for much longer, as a few of the things she has done that have been brought up are actual, legitimate crimes at a federal/national level, and the FBI is not a politically affiliated organization, her bribe money will get nowhere with them like it does with all of the superdelegates. The FBI does not care about the media spin on everything she does either, just because her family controls almost all of the major outlets for "news" and therefore the narrative behind them will not mean jack pomegranate other than a huge amount of "muh feelings support Hillary the gubment are evil" reports for a while on most channels, which will not affect the decisions made in the least. In fact, I would go a step further by saying, if they choose to OVERLOOK her blatant flaunting of the law, it would only solidify the thought that she is "above the law" which would piss a ton of people off, doing great harm to her campaign and giving the Republican candidate an endless supply of ammo to use against her in every debate. Regardless, while I think Sanders has a better chance of winning the overall election, I would still prefer he get the nomination just on the million to one chance that Hillary beats the Republican nominee, not because I care very much whether or not this country goes under, but rather because I hate her family and wish unending misfortune upon them; she would be the worst president in the lineup and eventually everyone would realize it, but I would prefer her to think about her failure every day for the rest of her miserable life until she dies at an old age as an unsatisfied shadow of a person, and while I seriously doubt karma exists, that would be the only thing that would make up for all the bad she has done in this world, in my eyes.
Silvarien Wrote:America did not want to get involved in either WWI, or WWII. This is historical FACT, which you would know if you actually studied history. We were very reluctant to get involved, in WWI, the major European nations lobbied us, and in WWII, it was Britain. We finally got involved, in WWI, precisely because we got convinced. In WWII Japan attacked us -- but still, attacking Hitler before the Japanese was a conscious choice by us. By the Cold War, we didn't feel we had a choice left.
During World War I, Europe was two sides as defined by the Congress of Vienna, in WWII it WAS a hive mind because all of Europe, explicitly or implicitly, was trying to shake off Hitler's yoke. What the pineapple do you think "World War" to mean, other than that? He was going to kill or enslave everybody, and that gave everybody incentive to fight him. They were not a single government, but they all wanted Hitler gone. Jesus Christ, how ignorant ARE you?
I am not a funny guy, I am a serious guy. And no, you CAN'T argue with me, because you don't know basic history of your own continent that a smart person would know by the time they graduated high school or its European equivalent.
Just as a side-note on this conversation, I consider Churchill to be the third worst person in WWII; he was a manipulative piece of pomegranate who did not follow any of the rules of war and escalated far more situations than he solved. The Bolsheviks obviously take the first slot, though, god damn were they appalling monsters, they killed many orders of magnitude more people than Hitler could have even dreamed of.
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