Satellite Wrote:There's a theory about Kylo Ren, and I extended it with my own ideas of what's going to happen IF the theory has any truth in it:
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Remember when Kylo Ren/Ben Solo talks to Vaders helmet, "I'm going to finish... what you started." Most people assume this means he wants to become the next Vader. Doesn't make much sense, surely Leia and Han must've told him how Vader returned to the "light side"? Well, there's theor(ies) that by finishing what Vader started, he means killing Snoke (Plagueis?), just like Vader killed Sidious and bringing true balance to the force. He knows (or assumes) Snoke is weak, but he had to turn to the dark side to get himself where Snoke is. This is why he's feeling "torn apart" and constantly trying to keep the light side from showing through and trying to fuel the dark side with rage.
This is why he's having conflicting feelings before killing Han. Maybe he is actually able to get inside Han's mind there (he obviously has that ability) and tell him his true mission. This is why he says thank you to Han after piercing him with his lightsaber.
Now here's what I believe if that theory is true (and it does have a lot of holes in it): Kylo Ren is underestimating Snoke's knowledge of the force (doesn't realize that he's actually the most powerful Sith there has ever been). Snoke has foreseen Kylos plans and after asking for the First Order to bring Kylo to him, he's going to slaughter him in EP8. "Kylo Ren, your training is finished..." *tortures with force lightning to death*
After this it will be up to Ren, Finn, Luke and others to destroy Snoke and the First Order.
VerrKol Wrote:I like the idea for it's complexity.
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While there's certainly a lot of similarity between Anakin/Vader and Ben/Kylo, I don't think anyone really wants another Vader. Turning KR into a unlawful good type has it's merits. I would love to see them bring back the prophecy as well, but with a new (or rather old but not Lucas approved) interpretation. KR could balance the force by learning both sides and thus defeat the last Sith, Snoke. I could see him sacrificing his father for this, which nicely contrasts with Anakin's unwillingness to sacrifice Padme, especially if he gets telepathic approval.
I'd love to see this kind of complex motivation for turning dark, but it seems unlikely as hell.
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If he is to defeat the LAST Sith, he should also have to scratch off his list to kill the LAST Jedi.
I'm siding with Ben/Kylo believeing it's force users ruling over non force users as a birth right, something that can only be done with the darkside, while the Jedis only want to help, not dominate.
Anakin/Vader brought balance after millenia of conflict. I expect both sides to turn the tides in their favor now that balance was achieved.
Also, of note, the book "Before the Awakening" gives A LOT of backstory info about the characters and the way they are. Recommended.
And in other news:
Quote:Star Wars: The Force Awakens added $28.1 million domestically and $36.7 million overseas on Wednesday for a total of $64.8 million for the day. The Lucasfilm release has now earned $629 million in North America and $664.1 million internationally for a worldwide total of $1.293 billion.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens has now become the highest-grossing film domestically in Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures history, incredibly passing in only 13 days the entire $623.4 million total gross of Marvel’s The Avengers from 2012. In North America, the film is already the #2 movie of 2015 and #4 movie of all-time. Internationally, Star Wars: The Force Awakens is already the #5 movie of 2015 to date. Globally, Star Wars: The Force Awakens is the #4 movie of 2015 to date and has now become the #8 movie of all-time (passing Frozen‘s $1.277 billion).
No matter if you thought the movie was awesome or average or bad, I think we can agree it deserves to pass Frozen's worldwide total.