Paris: At least 128 dead in 6 terrorist attacks

"The economy is in major problems and now our own capitals aren't safe for our own citizens."
Why are these two problems linked in your mind (or at least in this statement)? Do you think that the acceptance of refugees has somehow jeopardized your safety? What do you propose to do about the refugees instead?

They aren't directly linked, however our countries are currently using a lot of resources handling the refugee crisis. And many countries are reaching their limits for what they can support without cutting resources from other things, and at the moment i feel that we need to make sure that our economy comes out of its crisis and that our country gets back on its feet properly. It was far more of a general statement about europe at the moment than it was me saying that the refugees are ruining the european economy, i'm saying that for some smaller countries it's most definitely impeding the recovery of our economies.

"And i doubt that the response this will cause which will likely wipe out ISIS will stop the terror, a new group will simply take their place and more extremists will keep doing this pomegranate."
Does the importance of fighting evil diminish because of it's difficulty? Would it be better to give up trying at all? Would ignoring ISIS as a regional problem allow them to consolidate their power and ultimately create a greater threat to foreign nations?

Who the pineapple said anything about giving up or that the importance diminishes because of its difficulty? I'm saying that crushing ISIS with military power isn't going to pineappleing solve the problem as long as the entire region is destabilized, figuring out how to crush ISIS is one thing, returning political and military stability to the region? That is a completely different problem and as far as i'm concerned the real challenge.

"As if the cultural tensions in europe weren't in a bad enough spot already, i'm genuinely afraid of what this will result in if it keeps up."
Are cultural tensions solely the fault of immigrants and refugees? Do you fear riots and violence and if so, from which group?

Do i fear riots and violence? Violence is already happening, the people of europe are not happy with how many governments are currently handling the situation, a month or so ago a swedish nationalist decided to kill immigrants with a sword because he was a crazy neo-nazi.
pomegranate like that isn't the fault of the immigrants or refugees, but the cultural tensions are only constantly being pushed further because of radical and extremists groups like ISIS. The more times ISIS pulls off pomegranate like this did this friday the more this tension will grow, and yes i most definitely predict that it'll result in violence or in some places riots.
The problem is again, that our countries are reaching their limits and people are becoming increasingly frustrated with that, and some people are most definitely also becoming increasingly afraid of it happening in their own countries. The xenophobic and racist pimentos will obviously be the ones that turn to violence and riots, but these people exist and i'm afraid that innocent blood will be spilled because of ISIS' actions.

I mean i wouldn't really find it hard to understand why some jews in europe might be somewhat xenophobic towards the muslims in general after the things that have happened in recent time as a result of the actions of extremists or radicals.

I read that in your response, but I also see what may be a knee jerk reaction and what I hope is an unconscious association of the attacks and refugees which are probably more closely linked in time than cause which must be traced back to the Middle East. I merely wish to remind that the refugees are victims too.

I at no point in my post associated the refugees with the attacks, i simply said that europe isn't exactly in a super great position and i feel that many countries in europe honestly have more pressing matters and that these countries are reaching their limits for how many refugees they can help.
I believe that for a country like denmark getting our economy back on its feet will allow us to help far more in the future than taking in more refugees than we can currently help does.

He has made it rather clear in both post that he's in favor of denying entry to refugees which are by definition a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster. Does this not represent adequate need? I'm not talking about economic immigrants (nor is he in his first post by my interpretation) which merely seek better financial situations. He seems to reference both in his second post making my points relevant. You're projecting your more moderate opinion onto his post (unless he disagrees with one of these interpretations).

Yes, no pomegranate i'm in favor of denying entry to refugees. I will gladly state that openly: I don't believe denmark should take in anymore refugees. And we have already stopped, because again, we've reached our limits.
Also i didn't in either of my posts mention economic migrants???

I took issue with Malthe's use of "more pressing concerns". It is shortsighted and naive not see the refugee crisis and the terrorist attacks have related causes which must be addressed with both long and short term solutions. The refugees are going to keep coming because they perceive the long march (reference intended) because the possible prospect of entry to Europe is preferable to what they consider certain death at home. Yes there will be those of lesser need and even some who try to take advantage of the situation. I don't think that means we should deny entry and watch them die outside the front door.

Yeah the refugees are going to keep coming. But there are only so many refugees that each country can take properly care of, many countries are reaching their limit. So yes, if a country can't support anymore refugees then as much as that pineappleing sucks, i believe the country is fully justified in denying them entry. It's a super pomegranatety situation, no way around it.

To borrow Shinku's metaphor, one person might fall and drown trying to pull someone out of the river, but many working together can succeed where one would fail.

Yeah but each country only has so much support they can offer.

Let me give you a metaphor you can't possibly fail to understand, this entire situation is a sinking ship and the refugees are trying to get off this sinking ship without drowning. Each country can send a certain amount of lifeboats to save a certain amount of people. Denmark has sent a lifeboat that can carry X amount of people and we have taken in that X amount of people to care for. However if we overfill the lifeboat beyond its capacity there's a chance that the lifeboat itself will simply also sink making our efforts pointless to begin with.

Edit: Anyway i'm not really interested in continuing this discussion. If our opinions and outlook on this situation differ then that's fine to me.