2015-08-14, 09:40 AM
KhainiWest Wrote:Closing the gap would not lead to a logical conclusion of raising the gap. The only reason nexon would hopefully make that decision is if a boss requires a higher cap to defeat it. See potential with pink bean. Players will not demand a cap raise unless there is content they cant reasonably clear without a necessary damage cap change.
If a million extra free ways to upgrade equipment are added into the game tomorrow, why won't there be any reason for players to demand a damage cap increase? Furthermore, why won't Nexon be more inclined to increase the cap as a result? The whole notion that some content requires a higher cap is silly because Nexon created that content and hence set the standards for that content in the first place.
KhainiWest Wrote:What I'm suggesting is a method for a small group of players to have the possibility of clearing high level content. We don't have that because the gap is too big, the only reason (I repeat) that a damage cap would be "demanded" is if the high level content would REQUIRE a cap increase.
You're making wild and illogical hypothetical progressions. Your method would just piss people off and make them feel scammed to be honest.
I dunno, cappers might demand a damage cap increase so they can kill stuff faster. And if more and more upgrade options are added (meaning it is easier to hit cap), eventually people will ask for a damage cap increase as it eventually becomes easier to hit cap whilst not even fully utilizing all those upgrade options. And, again, the notion that anything requires a cap increase is silly - they could just adjust the content itself. Your motive is good, but the method is poor.
Grey Wrote:It doesn't matter if you add free ways to upgrade gear later on, because the people hitting cap are already hitting cap. Your premise that it would upset them assumes that these people are frugal, that they meticulously keep track of their finances so they can just barely hit cap and then they stop, so that they'd care if they could've done it for cheaper if they had just waited. While there are certainly people like that, most of the people at the top are not. Money is a blunt object, they throw money at the game until they get what they want. If they could do it for cheaper, great, but if they can't, they'll just spend more. They aren't just paying to get to the top, but to get to the top as fast as possible. It's somewhat like early adopters with electronics. They'll throw down a ton of money, even though eventually it'll probably be cheaper, just for the privilege of having it, and having it before other people.
On the other hand, if one day you paid a dollar for a candy bar and then the next day you paid the same amount for half the candy bar, you'd probably feel gipped, regardless of whether or not you still needed a whole candy bar or if half was sufficient. It feels pretty bad when something is taken away from you, even if it's clear that things really haven't changed.
I spent quite a bit to be able to solo CRA, and just barely, so when they nerfed Paladins, a bit more to regain the ability. The fact that Star Force makes it cheaper to get stronger barely crosses my mind, in fact, Star Force was one of the major factors in me being able to solo CRA again, compared to the thoughts of "Man, if they didn't nerf me, I'd be doing twice as much damage now". My thoughts on it are literally, with the same amount of money, I could've been capping. That bothers me a lot more than the fact that I can basically do everything I used to do before.
Yep, which is why I said some people. I'm one to think like that... lol.
Well, as I stated, the damage cap and monster and boss HPs can all be lowered. If I decreased the cap to 25m and also halved the HPs of all monsters and bosses, I don't see the problem there. The players complaining that they had paid for that extra 25m damage just to have the cap reduced... that's sort of like complaining about paying to hit cap just to have more free ways to upgrade later on. And, like you yourself stated, most top players don't really care if they could have had it for cheaper.