I hate bringing this on and on but you are showing off as real annoying. Your aim is evidently to just provoke my replies in a poor attempt to get away with your distorted posts. Keep in mind this is the last time I satisfy your ego, any other points that remain unclear you can pm me as I will ignore your replies and try to stay ontopic.
Quote:Once again, he was not disrespecting you in his post at all. I have read and reread his post, theres no form of disrespect towards the person he was quoting. Disrespect is taken, not given, so that means the assumption that he is disrespecting falls on you, because his disagreeing somehow disrespects you, in which in turn you say he is being rude and other things, when in fact other people don't see it that way.
Worst crap I've ever humanly been told.
Quote:Meaning you are the one being offended, justin is not being offensive. Also the fact that in your very first post you say that the only person you agreed with, sapta here, was the only one who had a reasonable opinion. This is what you stated in your 2nd post as to the reason why you wrote your first post. You already stated yourself in your first post that everyone else opinion is wrong or without merit. Justin posts came after that. So you 'insulted everyone'(using your definition of insult) then justin proceeds to try to show why your post isn't accurate, without offending you. Then you claim Justin offended you first? Yeah...
Quote:You literally said here, i agreed to the only opinion that was backed up with reason. That means from the very begging you dismissed everyone's post because it did not align with what you viewed as correct. Even more so, when its been shown that you neglected basically the first 3 pages worth of posts. Okay. You're wondering why i called the fact you cherrypicked?
I proved that I actually had read it all, you are just still trying to throw crap at me even after proven wrong. I just don't feel the urge to stomp my feet on everyone else and quote 70 replies at once. Cherrypicking is not the same thing as not needing to start flaming people I don't PICK. I read all the posts, especially Zapta's, because I think they are the most thought-out ones, and I found myself in agreement with them, so I made it clear. Not my fault if certain someones cannot understand that I'm expressing opinions even if I don't write "In my opinion".
Quote:The title of this thread is "This game's practically dead in terms of actual content." The part i bolded in the above quote does not pertain to EVERY version of maple as some people have told us, cough kms cough. So that leads to us to ask which game, maplestory, which version, well the author PLAYS GMS, and since the bolded cannot apply to every version, he must be specifying GMS.<This is where the argument he is talking about GMS comes from. Also the fact this the problem is very prevalent in GMS helps us understand that he is talking about GMS.
Maybe you are very sure that only GMS is buried under a pile of crap, so is what I understand from the comments. Shocker!, KMS was too and EMS still is too. I don't go sugar sweet on it, difference is instead of just whining I work to get out of it using what is in my possibilities, and I tried to give some suggestions. The feedback I got is how you welcome a little help.
Quote:You played easy maple then, if you played as an archmage and saying it was easy. As a 164 marksman before cubes, 4 hours= 1 level, i'll laugh in your face. When i could remember getting along the lines of 8% on 4x exp in 1 hour solo, if you couldnt basically pay/bribe a bishop to train with you. Even then it did not past 20%. So 4 hours= 1 level back then. yeah no.
That's the exact opposite as I intended LOL! you think I don't know bishop was the easiest? Yet it took all that long. Any other job took double as long or more, people (this is also for KhainiWest) invested so much time on grinding and so much meso on books (yes books were expensive if anyone remembers, and required for bossing/grinding if anyone remembers). So actually you could buy your skill points (aka books that allowed you to use them), actually you HAD to. Intended, with mesos. You can buy your gear with mesos too; yet you refuse to try making money? I never said what happened is good for the game, but if the game has changed then it's natural for some/many people to quit. It used to be about leveling, now it's about gearing up. Some people now play it because they prefer it now rather than what it was back then, so what? You cannot either say that 80% of the population has quit due to these changes, because you seem to forget IRL changes or new hobbies and integrate them in the mentality of "I grinded hours for level 200, now I cba to grind hours for gear so I quit" which is limited to a part of that 80%.
Your severe misunderstanding, Zero, makes me wonder what else on earth you could possibly have misinterpreted. Probably the entire thread.
Quote:He is talking about Gear. Specifically GEAR. Even the Underlined part, is about GEAR, because no class can just hit max damage without good/extremly good gear.You are trivializing the point about making the game easier to train, not about gear. KhainiWest, brought up this point too. You are side stepping it instead of addressing the OPs statement about how f'ucked you are in terms of advancing gear without paying out of your ass. But you said it's just takes effort to advance, it takes effort to level maybe, but effort can't be used when the system for advancing your gear is completely random. Its like telling someone at a casino playing SLOTS, YOU JUST GOTTA TRY HARDER and stick with it. You'll win eventually. Thats why the argument that its a effort based game when it comes to RNG makes absolutely no sense in the form of gear.
There is something called "buying equipment" without recurring to the cubes' RNG. That takes pure meso raising, no RNG gods praying needed, luck or whatnot.
Quote:The above to me sounds pretty bad, but hey just put more effort into your gear, and you'll eventually RNG it to perfection. Oh wait nexon nerfed everyone's damage...Well shi't
Tell me where, except the 50mil damage cap (which I disagreed with too, just not in this forum), all the jobs at once have been nerfed to the point where they need to invest more cash.
Quote:Implying that a party of 6 that can solo normal magnus can take on CRA< That's your problem. Also the fact that equipments are so deflated in GMS. IF THEY COULD solo some of the CRA bosses, the easier ones like queen, They would further deflate the price value of the items they are trying to sell to nothing, and then they would be no progress in getting better equipment.
Again, very sorry for making suggestions. But every bit adds up to what you can get eventually. Breaking news, cra armors are deflated in EMS too. Many scenarios are the same, all I try to do is give advices.
Quote:Well maybe you shouldn't try to imply things as true when you yourself stated you didn't know the situation at hand in GMS and pass of our complaints as the whining of someone who wants to be spoon fed 2m-2m when no one has stated this or hinted at it in the first 3 pages. But wait, you didn't read those pages....
I did read all the thread, I say this once again and for all. Since this is your only certainty however I will see another "but wait, you didn't read..." in your next reply, which will instead be the proof that the one with difficulties at reading and elaborating is you.
Quote:The above is the only smidgen of that can be said to even be correlated with my quote in your first post. Nothing that agrees with my quote is in your 2nd post, and nothing in the 3rd post. You say you been clear in agreeing, when in fact all you did was mention it once in the first post, added nothing to it, just said i agree, and never mentioned it again. Sorry for being a little skeptical on the fact you said money is a shortcut when all the things you been arguing for have been LEVELS, exp. In the Terms of Gear, Money is the only way to advance.
Do I need for Your Majesty to write in capital letters "I agree, this is right and completely flawless" and argument it or do you have a brain to understand that "I agree" = "agreement" without you resorting to big words to hide the fact you are merely satisfying your compulsion to question each and every of my words even after I stated "I agree"? Are you able to follow up a post that treats more than one topic at once or do you need a linear sequence of thoughts? This is your worst defect, you seem to be gravely unable to understand people and their intentions.
Quote:Because your post doesn't make any sense in the way your trying to PORTRAY them now. As well as the fact that not only me, but a few others had issue with your post means that this isn't an issue with just me an individual not liking or disagreeing with your post, but the fact that your post makes no sense in the given context of the OP and with the evidence that has been posted through out the thread, but wait you didn't read it...
Read up.
Quote:oh really? I'll read the topic once again. " This game's practially dead in terms of actual content" Then OP went in further to explain why the game, maplestory was going under, and using context clues, we can arrive that hes talking about GMS, because not all his comments can be applies to every version maple. So he was talking about GMS< a version of maple story that he is playing, a version of maplestory where every comment he made to can apply, hence this game, in the title of the thread is referring to GMS. Which is MAPLESTORY, but his experiences are reffering to his specific version. So while you can CHIME IN your experience in EMS, that does not give you authority to advice GMS players to suck it up, and then tell them to stop whining, because all they want is to be spoon fed, while ignoring any counter argument your opponents have put up.
I don't take the authority to order people what to suck up. I do take the authority to share my experience, give ideas and offer motivation to keep going. If you want to take away from me the freedom of expression, go become a dictator, but do it somewhere else.
Quote:While your examples you give may be true in EMS. You were still comparing apples to oranges and saying that the apple basically needs to suck it up and produce orange juice. Even after you yourself stated, YOU have no clue what the situation in GMS is, then claimed to be an authority in EMS and somehow that makes you know that it will work IN GMS. And you're wondering why some people are a little confused and calling your post bull?
Finally, I never mentioned to be an authority in EMS. This is the Nth proof that you keep inventing bull.
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Grey Wrote:So, those are my two cents.
I would love to see new questlines too, but at this point it's pretty hard. Unless you add something peculiar as quest rewards, for example items that help scrolling. Or maybe "shards" that, once gathered in total, allow you to create some new item that may match up with harder-to-obtain endgame gear. These quests might as well involve exploring hidden maps. This is the concept of DIPQ, except dim gloves are only one piece of armor, and I believe you have tyrant gloves too which can easily outdo them.
There was plenty of these quests back then, but they mostly gave useless rewards and are now barely completed, for example the explorer medals. However systems like the hyper rock hinder this design at least for people who have it.
Party quests I feel are severely damaged. Speaking of my world, they are partially underrated aswell, very few people play them despite the good trait leveling tool they represent as well as a decent alternative to grinding. As it is now we have some fixed grinding spots. I would like to see some "new" PQs (as in recycle the existent ones) specifically for levels 45-60 (currently we grind at drakes and start off with a 40% miss rate or so), 90-100 (MP3, it's not slow but it's boring to do all 3rd job levels there), 140-160 (in GMS I believe you don't have veracent so I will also ask where you grind - we have 2 very good maps in veracent, but if you think that of all the available grounds in veracent (20ish maps) and outside, of those 2 one holds high HP mobs and the other is overpopulated by anyone of levels 100-160 really) and 150-165 (it's ridiculous that people at 160 with mystic door mules go occupy KC1 with level 177 mobs and a requirement of level 165 prequests). Just an example.
In the regard of motivating people to level up, I believe hyper stats are a great idea. They replace those passive stat enhancing hyper skills and require an increasing number of points which you get by leveling, in a higher quantity the more you level up. And the bonus they offer is not at all irrelevant