2015-08-09, 10:12 AM
Quote:Calling out the person on the fact they didn't read the thread and cherry picked their arguements.
Quote:First, Justin is not angry with you in particular at all, there's nothing in what he said in which you could draw this conclusion. Other than assuming of course, because he disagrees with you he is upset, because clearly your position is the correct one and he is just being a silly goose. He is not angry nor upset, and honestly as a question, what is up with EMS players always taking any form of disagreement as a personal attack on them.<Honest question, if you can answer. This isn't the first time its happen.
It's not just disagreement, as you see I reply to you, but mind you that even us "EMS players", as you are labeling me, can be right. It may be a chance but when I get treated in a disrespectful and arrogant way as it happened I have the right to point it out. The first one who thought that clearly his position was correct and I was being a silly goose is, magic of magics, him. I don't know and I don't care if all or none else of the EMS players who post here get mistreated.
Quote:the person who started this discussion plays in GMS
True, but
Quote:and was referring to GMS, NOT ANY other version of maple.
False, there is no GMS specific. The conditions he blamed are the same as in any maple version. Only then somebody (guess who?) thought the discussion was inherent to GMS only, but it's not. Except some, albeit big, differences (which I listed, ex. gollux), the essence of the game and its mechanics are roughly the same.
Quote:Well that's nice, but once again your missing the point of the thread
Sorry. I thought the point was finding the most relevant arguments and developing them.
My point in the thread, which you evidently missed "conveniently", is that
Quote:The progress is reasonable and consistent, but of course you have to put effort in it
Effort is the thing that makes you stick to doing something for a time span longer than 3 minutes. If maple was easy to play, 100% of the people would play it those 5 days then quit it. This way somebody quits and somebody keeps playing for improvement. The same difficulty you used to have in leveling up (and thus being able to access end game content) is now reflected in gearing (and thus being able to access end game content). You have a shortcut with cash, yes. You can do it without cash, yes. It used to take 4 hours for any level past 170 and 16 hours for the last level as 1hkoing bishop, with exp card of course. Apply that to all the levels that go from 150 to 200 (to join HT and PB you preferably needed level 200) and you get a crap ton of time that was required to use, spending that time now at raising meso is the same concept. If you're afraid of gambling you go buy cubed (perfect or temporary) gear instead of buying cubes.
If you mean that I should have given more attention to your own post rather than the whole thread, I apologize. But now we're at it so
Quote:and when you reach the awkward phase where you're in between being able to solo end game bosses and not, you get some insight on how much EFFORT it takes
implying that a party of 6 people who can solo normal magnus cannot party up and match CRA, to get gradually stronger and eventually split the squad to have a better income for everyone and progress further. That's obviously out of mind because nobody ever did that. It takes too much effort, maybe, to ask people to party up. You are one of those who are now webbed in the mentality of solo play, while it's much easier if you take steps from party play to solo play and then repeat for stronger bosses as you get further.
Quote:Once AGAIN, EMS IS NOT GMS, The whole, well I CAN DO IT IN EMS, SO DO IT IN GMS CRYBABIES, does not work here in any context because you have no clue what GMS players have to put up with. Not only do we have gold botters, we have elite botters, we have botters for everything< Literally. I am being literal here. There is a botter for everything in the fm.
My bad for making examples and trying to be constructive.
Quote:Yes its doable, but saying you can do it completely with no money, your deluding yourself. Buying Nx of someone with mesos, is still buying NX. Even if you lessen the amount of money you personally spent, Does not negate the point that money has such a huge advantage over players...
I have been clear in agreeing with that. However
Quote:...It's completely ridiculous and broken in GMS
With just two words, 5 letters in total, you completely defied the sense of my post and depicted my reply as offtopic. Congratz.
But then again it was you who moved the discussion to be about GMS only and you stick to thinking that way, so yeah pomegranate my post without thinking that you are being close minded. I could underline some of your "(in) GMS" that completely betray the original purpose of the topic and make you seem logical, whereas your post would have a good start to a new thread named "GMS's practically dead in terms of actual content". Truth is the topic is about MAPLESTORY.
Quote:Hi, my names KillerZero, and ive played this game for literally almost half my life. I started when i was in 6th grade, so i was 10, and i just literally hiatuses this year, I'm turning 22 in a few months. So i think, i think, maybe, just a little, I know how gms works, a bit better than someone who hasn't played it. Let me tell you, the progress is not reasonable nor consistent, it really comes down to what RNG wants to give you(usually bad) and what exploit is coming around which can negate everything you done for the month.
Read the 4 lines ^ again as a reminder before continuing the offtopic.
edit: sorry for deleting the quote sources. However they are all in this thread.

