2014-12-18, 09:51 PM
(This post was last modified: 2014-12-19, 08:52 PM by Five Second Pose.)
Malthe Wrote:For the inevitable? What do you pineappleing mean? If his goal was to kill people he would've just done so, since he kept hostages he clearly had a goal in mind and this leads to the possibility that.... they can get everyone out without anyone dying! There's a possibility of negotiation, there have been multiple cases in the past where all hostages are saved through negotiating with the criminal.
Your method would've possibly just killed everyone while the the results of what actually DID happen resulted in most people surviving.
It has nothing to do with not having any balls and everything about the police's goal not being just killing him but the safety of the people inside.
This might seem like a pineappleING CRAZY AND WILD concept to you, but the police don't actually care of the gunman lives or dies, what they DO care about is the safety of the people inside, which was their priority. Crazy right? The police is worried about the lives of others, is this such a crazy concept to you?
Your line of thought would've possibly just killed everyone for the sake of killing a single madman. Like are you actually too dumb to understand the concept of bombs and accomplices?
>Shoot man keeping hostages while there's a threat of bombs and potential accomplices
>The accomplice blows up the bombs
>Everyone pineappleing dies and nothing is achieved
Like i seriously think you suffer from some kind of mental problem or lack of empathy if you think risking everyone's lives just to kill a single madman is the best thing to do in these situations.
Like seriously, what does just killing him right away when there's a risk it would kill everyone achieve?
you dont get it do you. like i've said before negotiations led to no where. the gunman asked for an IS flag and a talk with tony abbott which wasnt going to happen. so what exactly is there left to negotiate about ? you think hes just gonna so welp cant get what i want im surrender ? this guys whole goal was to kill everyone but in a different way, first try get what u want and the most attention then kill everyone for maximum affect.
there was the variable of the hero in this situation without his attempts to take the gunmans gun most of the hostages wouldn't of escaped. so what does that have to do with the police when they were standing outside and refusing negotiations.
KhainiWest Wrote:The USA and EU would handle it the same way to be honest. I think your allegations are groundless and are just parroting what you've heard.
I don't have to be from Australia, but you do kind of have to have some type of understanding how police training works. I don't think you do, especially with an asinine suggestion as "SNIPER TEAM GO". Look at the feedback of your posts, you're a minority here and most likely in Australia.
Honestly just stop bi`tching about it, you look ignorant as f`uck. You're free to do so, but hey, them the brakes. You just look like an angry man yelling at a cloud at this point, I won't continue with such irrational perspectives, you're free to do so though.
this case is different though you are dealing with Islamic terrorists taking up hostages. theres a difference between some guy who isnt terrorist affiliated and one whos not terrorists cannot be reasoned with. USA and EU have not had a situation like this before.
typical police training is all the same. but the culture of australia's police is different, they arent used to all the violence as seen in america so they are much more hesitant and in experienced even if u have training cause actual fieldwork proves better as australia is innocent.
why do you see the need to swear just makes you sound un educated. and the way you talk makes you sound like your on some high horse please get off it thx.

