Insane Asylum Mafia END MAFIA WINS.

Sorry for the late response people, I had this response written hours ago and couldn't access southperry when it came to posting it.

Also, mod-provided info shouldn't be relied on. In past games it was kind of a huge crutch where people were told of basically everything that happened to them (INCLUDING BEING SAVED???), which I tried to avoid in my game but kind of messed that up anyway (SORRY MAS D but I'm not sure which way Meta's leaning in this one. I'm inclined to believe he's going to withhold more info though.

I'm not so much talking about night PMs, which anyone can fake and like you said may not even exist, but the role information. We can imply and figure out more about the game with the deads' role PMs.

Kyrastri, why are you voting for Cakes?

I think i responded to this already but reiteration! I'm voting CakesXD because I know nothing about him since he hasn't spoken up. He hasn't shown intent through votes (no votes) or posts at all, and I need to constantly remind myself that he's here. Which is a good thing for anti-town, but not a good thing for everyone else.

Either way, there's no point focusing on the people who were soaked with smelly liquid. We don't know what it does and if it's a third party's action it means nothing towards our alignment.

If there is an arsonist and if it confirms the presence of a firefighter, if they use the night skill on you or Raz (assuming it's the same action by the arsonist), would it remove the smell/gas/gasoline? I read the mafiascum wiki on it but got confused.

Kyrastri gave up on his position of not voting. However, he just went and did an innocuous (and safe) vote on CakesXD for not having talked too much but without carrying much intent of lynching him. His discussion with LuvD is pointless, arguing on things that don't matter at all if he isn't convinced that LuvD is mafia. Yeah, LuvD gave poor reasoning for his behavior, but that's just standard LuvD.

Sorry, but how would I go about carrying more intent of lynching someone beyond a vote? I have no intentions of dropping it until he speaks up (you yourself are encouraging voting, which he has not done either)and I don't have a double vote to force him to talk faster.

The discussion was me getting irrationally angry at stuff. Assuming he is the double voter there is little chance that he is mafia, but he's the scummiest player to me. A vote on him would be easily outweighed by his two votes, and even if we all band together and lynch him we're losing lynch power to the mafia.

That's the problem, you aren't voting because you think he's mafia and want him lynched. You're just doing the pointless "vote for A until they speak up" Day 1 schtick that southperry seems to love so much. And worse, you only did it because I called you on not voting.

Edit: give me something, who do you think is suspicious? What do you think of the current vote wagons? Why is CakesXD more suspicious than the other inactive players?

I'm voting him because I don't know whether he could be mafia or not. It's much easier to pick out scummy behaviour when they are here, so I don't see how getting people to talk is pointless. It's not even just speaking up, it's giving something to go off of.

And to be fair, I did point it out before you called me on not voting. I wasn't going to just jump on someone else when nothing came of me mentioning them earlier in the day.

As for suspicions:
Don't think anything of the numbers- I just took them from the playerlist.

 Players

1. meowmixx
Meow has been quiet but her manner of playing is reminiscent of Digital Mafia. Under that judgement I can't hazard a guess on who she thinks is suss but I don't think she is suspicious.
2. VerrKol
I don't know what to make of him, but Polantaris did point him out so I'm kinda banking on the fact that he's gonna speak up. His vote on Hypermug had more intent behind it than Hypermug's retaliation vote, so he's erring on the lesser side of suspicious to me.
3. Razmos
I guess I like being distracted/am distracted easily because I didn't notice his conversation redirecting as particularly scummy. I'm inclined to agree with the sentiment that his activity isn't very valuable per se, but I guess I'd be under the same fire. He seems very defensive, but I can't really blame him, and on top of that he's a new player, which would explain his over-defensive posts.
4. Hypermug
Hyper's erring on the more suspicious side to be honest, since I kinda grouped VerrKol and Hyper together (when it comes to suspiciousness) but given Hyper the higher scum reading. He called his retaliation vote as not because Verr voted for him but because of bad vibes, which I honestly do not buy. At all.
5. Shidoshi
You've been posting and being your usual aggressive self, which is good and makes me think that you're not that suspicious. The only thing that I found iffy with your posts so far is mainly the stuff you did D1. You were the first vote, then ran with it all day without so much a mention of why you did it beyond 'excessiveness' (paraphrasing, don't remember the actual quote). It nearly got Raz killed for the wrong reason.
6. CakesXD
Cakes is the most threatening to me because I don't know anything about him. I don't know what he's thinking (beyond not knowing why Raz wasn't lynched), I don't know who he thinks is suspicious. Maybe he has a posting restriction (x posts per x pages), but we don't know that and can't know that until he speaks up.
7. Polantaris
Polantaris has been going on tangents but I don't find that overly suspicious. He's got reason and purpose behind his votes, and is posting every so often. The most suspicious thing I can pick up from him is that he did kinda react strongly to Luv voting him, but it was an incredibly random vote so I'm not sure whether that should be incriminating. He was on the low side for most of D1 but has started posting more as promised.
8. LuvDWayULie
I like to think my sentiments are clear with Luv. Right now he is the least likely person to be scum but plays as if he is the scummiest. He has more lynch power than us, which I take to mean that he can overpower anyone if they vote for him and when we all vote to lynch him, we lose lynching power to the mafia. Like Niernen said, he's not likely to be targeted by the mafia since there are more important roles than a double vote. Basically I think he's untouchable without severe consequences right now.
9. Holypie
At most, his love of killing people might be a little creepy, but he hasn't done anything that I consider suspicious.
10. MasPan
He doesn't seem as invested in the game, but his posts have been pro-town and tries to catch things that aren't already being said. I don't consider him very suspicious.
11. Niernen
Initially I considered Niernen on par with CakesXD since D1, all he had been posting were gifs and emoticons. He had been pointed out that day but didn't really do much about it. Thankfully he's back to posting text and aside from occasionally reiterating what has already been said (kinda makes his posts fluff up), he isn't the most suspicious person to me.
12. Kyrastri
I hope you really didn't think that I thought myself as suspicious :[ But from how I've read it the main reasons why I am suspicious is because I'm not giving enough oomph into my scumhunting, and because I didn't vote day 1 despite being the grand ol' genius and saying that it's good. I can't change the second point but I can always put more into scumhunting. I prefer theory to voting scum but it's not make-theories-about-the-game-mechanics-mafia, it's mafia and I agree with that. I hope this list will help with making my intentions and feelings about players clear.
13. ChaoticCJ
He's been quiet, and slips under my radar a little, but the posts he has posted are good and add another perspective, which I like. I'd chalk it up as he's playing as I've seen it, but it's not necessarily good. Regardless, he's not very suspicious to me.

 votewagons

Razmos:
I'm uncomfortable with lynching full stop but ignoring my usual nervousness I don't mind this votewagon. Out of the players being voted for he would be my second pick, Cakes obviously being my first.
Kyrastri:
Don't lynch the cheese. I'm not going to start agreeing with my wagon.
CakesXD:
I obviously agree with the wagon as I started it, but my suspicions were already outlined several times over so I'm not going to repeat myself to waste time :p
Shidoshi:
An incredibly random vote that I don't really agree with. Your Day 1 antics were confusing and thus are suspicious to me, but the basis on voting for this wagon doesn't use any of your previous posts to explain the vote. So I don't agree with the way the wagon started but I'm not completely and utterly opposed to it.