2014-09-27, 11:57 AM
Kyrastri Wrote:Assuming the straightjacket bit means that you were blindfolded, do you know anything else about the screaming?
I think I'm inclined to agree with you on that- a lot of the new votes were towards the end of the day, but it could also be a town/neutral with an agenda to neutralise the vote.
Sorry, could you clarify the bolded part? I don't understand what you mean. Otherwise I agree with you- maybe not a mistake, but I'm inclined to believe that the double voter is either town or a neutral. I see it as this- unless the mafia is particularly small, they wouldn't need the extra vote.
I think you just answered your own question; he'd vote for Polantaris to null the vote. Polantaris would have been a good scapegoat for something like that on day 1; he had no votes at the time, didn't seem anti-town. If Luv is the doublevoter, he could have easily passed it off (note how he said that he voted for no real reason aside from a gut feeling) and let the vote slide by, if you will as nobody had any reason to bandwagon on that.
Okay, you got me. I don't like voting on day 1 even though I say "it's for the best!" It makes sense to, but I get uncomfortable doing it.* I didn't like the bandwagon at the time due to how it got there, and none of the people being voted for seemed iffy to me.
If I had to have voted on day 1, if it gives you information into what I was thinking, I would have gone for either Cakes or Niernen because I honestly had no idea what the hell they were doing day 1. Even now, I don't understand what they're doing. I was going to lay it off until today to bring it up but if I had known that me voting could have actually netted us more information I would have voted to kill someone, so sorry about that :/
(as for the time bit, I was neglectful with the time and thought I would have had time to vote. Not that it would have made me look any better- late day voting is still pretty bad in itself.)
edit: * rewording because personality traits shouldn't be used as arguments, shock horror
Just since the double voter is a townie, the mafia wouldn't know that there was a double vote on the not-Razmos people, so they wouldn't know that pulling a vote off of Razmos would prevent a lynching. I'm inclined to believe Luv on the double vote thing, and that he's town since a double voting mafioso would be pretty op, and accelerating their wincon.
Niernen Wrote:I hadn't even considered a double vote and was really confused on why Meta was hinting that the votes were tied when it looked like Razmos would get lynched. I don't think there would have been much anyone could have done that late though, besides voting for Razmos to lynch him, or possibly voting for the same person as the double vote. Possible double voters are: Holypie, Razmos, Verrkol, Hypermug and LuvDWayULie (so basically everyone that voted day 1 except Maspan and Shidoshi). People have already pointed out that it is unlikely it was Luv, and it looks like hypermug is denying it is him, which leaves us with Razmos and Verrkol. That being said, it is highly unlikely that the mafia has a double vote, as that would give them tie breaking power and they could have easily killed someone yesterday (if they were paying attention or on).
Could whoever targeted polantaris have been a possible roleblocker? Not sure what other role would put someone in a straightjacket, although the screaming does not make sense (unless multiple people targeted him). Polantaris; You still in that straitjacket or did they remove it when the night was over?
Most of the first paragraph is just regurgitating what other people have already said. There's literally nothing new, other than the second paragraph pointing out the obvious that Polantaris was roleblocked and the screaming is weird. This on top of the past day's wacky antics make me pretty concerned about him, but I honestly think that no sane mafioso would draw that much attention to himself, but also WIFOM sooooo eh.
So far Razmos and Shidoshi have been doused by something smelly? Though Shidoshi didn't say he was soaked so I'm inclined to believe that it's two different smelly things, unless [MENTION=1087]Shidoshi[/MENTION]; can confirm that it was indeed a soaking of some sort matching up with Razmos' flavour. It seems odd though, that two people would get hit on the same night.
And Luv is acting erratically, and being sketchy as all hell, but what's new. The snap lynch of Polantaris would be so sketchy, but as I stated before, double-vote mafia is weird and OP so I don't think that's the case here. Unless Meta is screwing with us, which could be entirely possible.
By the way, Luv, you were the one who voted for Razmos because he voted for me with no reason, and then Kyra pointed out that he did have a reason, it was just incredibly flimsy (I wanted to lynch someone), and then you backpedaled a bit and said that you didn't realize that he gave a reason. I think you're town but really, you need to get your act together.

