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Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest)
VerrKol Wrote:The current GMS skill description says nothing about differences when mobbing or using rapid fire skills. I don't recall Max noting any changes to the description in KMS, but I'm not as meticulous about these updates as I once was.

I'd forgotten Rujin did that test. I'm not going to hunt down his old post on basil, but I can see his damage go from 20~25m to 35~40 with Armor Break. Which is a bit less than what I'd expect (25*1.45*1.225=44m) if it was a completely knew multiplier. This is partly because he has other sources of PDR (markmanship at least), but without knowing how much %td he has outside of MMS it's difficult to determine precisely.

If he only has 15% td from mms and AB is %td, he'd get a 33% ((45+15)/45) boost instead of the 45%. 25*1.33*1.225 = 40.7

I'm too tired to do the math including PDR from skills, especially since it would be pure guesstimation without knowing his equips and character cards at the time, but I think you see my point. It could be either and we can't tell until someone runs the numbers (preferably when they are awake). Oh and it would make way more sense to test on a boss since %boss and increased mob def would make the change way more obvious.


I followed a bit of what your saying but pretty much if your saying pretty much what is above that it is a multiplier, then I agree.


Eyon Wrote:Got me curious and I wanted to see the actual difference.
 No Armor Break
 Armor Break Activated

This was done at Hard Magnus (120% Ignore Defense) with the bowmaster hyperskill Gritty Gust (500% DMG). I had 135% boss and 80% Ignore Def during this screenshot.
As you can see the first hit did about 5.5M~ DMG whereas the second, armor break, hit did 18M~.
Armor break deals additional DMG and at HM it should add 2.2 times the output of of a normal hit.
5.5 x 2.2 = 12.1
5.5 + 12.1 = 17.6 which is quite close to what it did

I was always under the impression that Break was just 5.5*2.2 for the Break damage so just 12.1 not 17.6. I am not sure though. Do you happen to know the impact the 50% pdr ignore will boost your damage?
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Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - by Lisak - 2014-08-25, 07:48 PM

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