Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins

edit: because I realised that this was Berlin Wall-level wall of text, I'm cutting it into spoiler sections

Geez guys, really? I mean I understand, I really do, but still. Eh, whatever, at this point I have no problem getting voted off since I'll hopefully take a mafiaso with me.

Anyway I'll come out and fulling reveal myself at this point. I'm Ditto, and guess what my power is? Yeah, that is right, and I got really lucky on Night 1. I ended up copying someone who is not HolyPie but is also a cop, that is right, there are two cops. Didn't get to use my power until Night 2 but that was okay because I found a mafiaso who told off on herself with her subtle scum tells.


So if in the end ya'll still decide to vote me off and what I've said is proven to be true I hope ya'll will nail Kyrastri after I am gone!


[Vote]Kyrastri;

 In which I am hurt because of my betrayal

Should I be surprised that the one person who I've been encouraging to talk rather than force a lynch on inadvertently turns on me? I suppose not.

I'm going to outright ask right now, because I don't like being accused of having "subtle scum tells" without any examples or even PM evidence of my 'scumminess' (I notice that you didn't mention anything with this, which should be easily rectifiable); where do you think I was being 'scummy'? I would much rather attempt to clarify anything that might be misinterpreted rather than resign myself to being wrongfully lynched.

I notice that you're still saying "multiple tells" but point to no specifics. I want to be able to explain myself because I find that very insubstantial. There should be no harm if you really think I'm scum, right? If I can't explain myself I will happily be lynched.

[spoiler=In which I don't like how you claimed]Also, you DID just confirm the presence of a second cop, which now the mafia will know. Which is not a good thing for us.

Holypie had claimed cop which means that you could have just claimed that you copied Holypie. Even if Holypie ends up to be insane/random, we could have justified you as simply a role copier rather than the full shabang. I'll put more on this later.

Which leads me to my next question: How do we know that you're sane?

The presence of two cops in this game practically confirms insanity or some other bastard modifier as a balancer, or at least to me (the lady who takes the word of the MafiaScum wiki beyond all else :c).[/spoiler]

 In which I begin to doubt you to come full circle

That's to say that you are indeed a role copier, or whether you're just the second cop altogether. Which I somehow have a gut feeling that you aren't (the role copier I mean). Or maybe I'm just starting to take it personally. So if I sound aggressive, sorry. I just really don't like how you've worded your accusation.

- A Role Copier and a Role Forcer...? Role Forcer is obviously much more efficient and effective to town, but from what I've read you take a day to copy a skill. That's a lot of days wasted for a very short game (most games don't seem to reach day 5 from what I've seen). At the very least we can confirm whether role forcer will be town tonight; a lot of people have claimed and whatever happens now will definitely show intent.

- THREE potential cops? Niernen, what the pineapple are you doing, man? The last time we had this happen, it wasn't real, because three cops (well, two and a potential) in a game just seems really broken because it is. >:U

- This is more speculation at this point, but this point is under the assumption that you're bsing. We wouldn't be able to know whether there was a second cop or not; the only reason that I can come up with right now is that you wouldn't want to raise the possibility of relying on Holypie to get a response PM saying that they were copied. The role forced were told that their moves were 'taken', in a sense and I don't see why role copying should be any different.

And of course I can't ask for the second cop to stand up and confirm because who the pineapple asks the cop to stand up?

- It sure is convenient is it for you to reveal cop-copier just as everyone's starting to target you, and after [MENTION=814]MasPan[/MENTION]; claimed effect copier (if I read his post right). You posted at the start of the day; you had no clear intention of doing anything at that time, and honestly what were you hoping to achieve by keeping your results to yourself?

Actually, that last question can kinda be justified, so you don't have to answer that. It's probably a play quirk that I reveal improperly :/.

Hardly. Ya'll think I've just been sitting back and doing nothing? No, I've been watching everyone of your posts and comparing them to past games and made a list of the most scummy people based on everyone's traits. Kyra was at the top of that list, followed by you.

... You just openly claimed that you were metagaming. I don't even know how to respond at this point.

edit: it will be very appreciated if you only quote the bit you respond to, because I post walls of text and don't know how to condense my posts