2014-07-16, 11:42 AM
Polantaris Wrote:Gigantor post incoming.Too long, I did read, and I did understand what you've written.
We literally have nothing to go on except your word to that degree, and a "I can't defend myself" makes you look even worse. VerrKol says that your ability has forced him to spread your virus. How do we know that's not true?
(Not directed at VerrKol) Do you seriously expect us to believe that you knew nothing about this before you chose someone? Seems to me a pretty big piece of the puzzle to leave out. Of course VerrKol could be lying, but if you really are going to die after using it (which has to be true or you're killing yourself anyway considering how often you bring it up), I find it less likely.
(Directed at VerrKol) So let me ask...are you required to vote for someone? If not, and you really were targeted by Luv, that means that Luv is a liar.
That's...honestly...wrong. If your ability is as weak as you claimed in your original reveal post, it's nearly nothing in comparison to the many other powers that we've already noticed that could be far more problematic for the Mafia. It's far more likely that you'd force someone to lynch a townie than a mafia member. I'm sorry but if you think you're the prime target for mafia killing, you're wrong.
See, honestly...I don't think you exposed anything all that great. On Day 1, you made a mention of how awesome your power was. Forcing a vote is awesome? Whoopdie do da day. That's a pretty weak power. Another reason to not believe you now.
To be fair, the last time we made a mention of you disappearing you made a big deal about timezones and all that jazz (and it seemed a little aggressive if you ask me).
As to why Luv wasn't killed by the mafia last night; It could simply be because MasPan was suspected to have a far greater power due to the rhyming issue. That's not to say I don't suspect Luv anymore, I think there's all kinds of wrong going on in relation to him.
Is the parenthesis comment in relation to Meta?
I use Excel myself, and Dropbox is a great idea. Just random thoughts.
I'm being aggressive because we actually have information this game. Last game was a mess, and that cop situation just made things go out of control. Like 50% of the posts were from myself, Luv, and Kyra...and none of us were mafia...so there was really nothing to go on. The first thing I did when I subbed in the Two Island Mafia game was call out Zelkova, who was the grandfather of the mafia. Extremely aggressive, don't you think? I go with what's given to me.
This game there's all kinds of stuff going on and everyone for the most part is keeping active enough to be able to determine information about them. I'm logical, and this game logic is on my side. It may not be the logic I want but I still have things to go off of this time.
I adamantly do not believe that Luv's power is so weak when we have a prime example of a vastly superior power that also does exactly the same thing and more in our most recent lynch's file. It makes absolutely no logical sense to me. Something was left out of Luv's role claim. He may be telling the truth, but I do not believe that he's telling the whole truth.
Why wouldn't you lie? You roleclaimed when it was still in the air what was going on with Niernen's forced vote (unless I missed something). You could have easily been trying to make people connect that situation to you. It just so happens that Chaz has that ability and got lynched. Does it seem that farfetched? I think not.
Hell, if you're mafia, one of the other mafiaosos could have easily told you to make that kind of play. Just because you yourself may not have thought of it doesn't mean one of them didn't.
And how convenient for you to happen to have targeted the same person who died that night.
Except that he insists that he knew nothing about the spreading part. So why would he have ever thought this ability was amazing? His "reveal" stinks, and I don't like it.
[SUMMARY EDIT]
Not going to edit my whole post, because I'm kind of in two places in regards to Luv as the posts were read.
Essentially, my point is this:
Luv's claim, when he made it, was just, "I can infect one person, who will copy my vote if I vote, but I die if I vote." That's a weak ass power. That's identical to Chaz's at the first part. The difference, according to this description, is that Chaz gets to bus driver their target as well, while Luv dies from using it. That makes absolutely no sense to me.
Now, as of early Day 3, Luv gets called out by VerrKol for infecting him and forcing him to infect others in following nights. Why would this be left out of Luv's PM? It wouldn't be. That's what changes Luv's power from being a pile of dogpomegranate to an acceptably decent power.
Because of this, I believe that Luv lied about not knowing about the infection part. I call bullpomegranate. Therefore, why would he leave this portion out, unless he wants to trick us? He's unsafe to the town, and above that I'm not so sure I believe that his roleclaim is even legitimate.
For why the mafia won't lynch Luv:
We still have almost definitely a doctor, a cop, and who knows what else going around. They have far better targets to worry about. A forced lynch isn't that big of a deal to them. Why? Because unless the mafia is really screwing up, it's a total guess. There's significantly low chances that Luv would actually choose someone mafia, and if he were 100% certain someone was mafia they'd probably get lynched normally anyway. It's all guessing.
[EDIT]
DANG IT (Not to you, to myself). Now I know why you're suspecting me. Just reread the whole PM, and turns out I DID leave that part out. Argh, I feel horrible right now. I'm sincerely sorry that I left that part out. It's unintentional that I forgotten part of my PM.
You have every right to suspect me, and I don't mind about it.
Now to defend myself once more, if I haven't left that out, I wouldn't as suspicious as it is now, right? Argh, great. I blame myself due to exam period, where I freak out sometimes and tend to forget stuffs (Including this important part which I left out and "smartly" said I didn't receive it). Okay, I know you're not convinced with this, but I don't lie and hide things when I play mafia. I just can't. Even if I did lie/hide, it's very unintentional (If you didn't point this out, I wouldn't have reread my PM and realize my mistake).
I'm truly sorry what happened today. Another one of those days where I screw up stuffs, just like what happened to me the other day..

