2014-06-12, 09:17 PM
Hypermug Wrote:As already stated, I think the only viable excuse for not including Puff is that there are already 4 pokemon reps (granted we have 5 Mario reps and pokemon is pretty damn popular). If they can include Toon Link, who was being debated as a clone earlier in this topic, then I definitely don't see why they couldn't include Jigglypuff. It might have similarities to Kirby, but at least it doesn't have the same damn moves.
It's the most obvious excuse for sure, but her and kirby being fundamentally similar in a game design perspective doesn't help the cause very much. I don't think having a ton of reps from one franchise is a bad thing at all. It's only really a bad thing because we have the whole "we have to cut down on roster size" quote from sakurai in the back of our heads which is why we've been arguing this in the first place. The thing about mario's reps though is that they are all distinctly and vastly different from each other.
Toon link vs link is a good point, to be honest i completely forgot he was even a character in smash 4 hahaha, but i haven't seen literally anything from toon link's moveset in this game to be able to compare them. I don't think i was on the "he's a clone" side of the argument when we were discussing it before. I wouldn't make the case that kirby and jigglypuff are clones, either. I would imagine, seeing link in person and from what i know from brawl/melee, link has traditionally been built to get the kills head on (his dash attack is actually a viable kill move in smash 4), while toon link has traditionally been built more to camp and rack damage but still struggles with killing. Both in melee and brawl the two characters were distinctly different from each other despite having "the same moves" and i guess that's enough for sakurai.
On the topic of having the same damn moves though...are kirby and jigglypuffs aerials really that different? Kirby's ended up functioning better in practice in brawl so i can't imagine it wouldn't be the same if jiggs was in but that's probably too much theory crafting at that point.