2014-03-17, 09:51 AM
FangelXIII Wrote:Tried out 2 more heroes. Naga Siren and Treant Protector. It went...uh...interestingly. Lost my first match because my entire team abandoned and there was no way I could carry against a Bloodseeker, Viper, Huskar, Bane and Dragon Knight as Treant. Second match went well! http://dotabuff.com/matches/565770004 Their Legion abandoned but our Troll Warlord did nothing but feed so...guess that kind of evens things out. Third game we lost because Sand King wouldn't let our Slardar get any Last Hits, our Shadow Fiend (who was our only carry) abandoned and their Anti Mage got super farmed by end game. (They also had Sven and Lich which didn't make things easier.) But all in all I think he's my favourite support hero in the entire game.
Naga Siren didn't go so well...I don't get her. Like I understand how her skills work but...I can't figure out how I'm supposed to build her. She's squishy but if you go for Vanguard you delay getting stuff like Manta Style. If you buy Treads instead of Arcane Boots then you miss out on the mana that you need. If you try to fight with how squishy you are then you get destroyed. You have no real escape outside of song into TP scroll, and if you have no TP scroll then song isn't going to get you away from something like Slardar who will just catch up and stun you to death or Pudge who will just hook you back. I heard from a friend she was really hard but I feel bad just giving up on her.
I hate Treant in pubs, nearly as much as I hate Abaddon. Treant has no place in pubs unless you're with friends and in skype. You need your teammates to let you know when they need the heal, and that's never gonna happen so you gotta pray that your heals are there when needed. Besides, people are platypi so when you spam them in lane with shield, with either Treant or Abaddon, they won't man up for whoever knows what reason and you just waste mana. I hate playing those heroes.
Naga Siren is hard and it depends how you want to play it. She's either support or a split pushing carry, she can't fight early-mid game because she sucks early-mid game. She just has no damage. If you're playing her as support just go for Arcane Boots, Medallion, Mek/Urn of shadows and situatonally Force Staff/Blink or auras, such as Vlads, Drums of Endurance or Assault Cuirass if you're rich. Your job would be to initiate with song or the snare (which goes through magic resistance), set up team fights or damage control when you're losing a team fight.
Naga split push needs a great last hitter in the laning stage and good micro skills. If you want to make it work you need to farm Radiance in the first 20mins, then you farm the jungle and you split push with the illusions. From what I've seen lately the build goes boots>radiance> boots of travel>manta>diffusal/heart> bfly or whatever you think is necessary like mkb/linken's/abyssal blade. A bottle is useful but you need to micro yet another unit, the courier, to bottle crow until you stop having mana issues.
She's even hard to explain so don't take it as a "I give up" but more like "I'll give it another try later on".
This might help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0RH1pq_wf8
Note that what he's doing, Naga mid, only works if you're radiant. If you're dire it's better to take top lane and farm there.