2014-02-06, 08:02 PM
Moonlapse Wrote:Three points I'd like to address:
1. Creationist != Christian. There are plenty of Christians in science that believe in evolution.
2. micro and macro evolution exist on a continuum. It's not like one is completely different from the other. The "we descended from apes" part is not completley accurate. We diverged from apes. Evidence from psuedogenes, phylogenetics, etc pretty much confirms this.
3. From a professional perspective, unless you can muster up some physical explanation or mechanism, speculating on "how God did it" is pointless. You are not going to get any papers published on it nor are you going to get any grant money.
(Sorry if I sound like a jerk, I'm just passionate about this subject)
As i said i'm not about to get into the technicalities of it nor was it writing something to be accurate to avoid being bombarded by a rebuttal. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on the matter, and i'm happy that you are passionate about it, I am too but not about the same aspect others such as you may be inclined to dive deep into.
Not sure why the last point was put in as I was not trying to speculate on "how God did it" or trying to do anything academic with this belief. Everything I said in the last paragraph is already proven to exist by science...I simply put in that God created all the mechanisms that we see in everyday life, the design simply had a designer, and we discover more of that design as life goes on. The difference to me is saying "the big bang was the cause of it all" vs "God is the creator of the big bang, and hence having evidence of the big bang does not mean that there wasn't a being that caused it". Just because we cannot measure or distinguish something does not mean it does not exist. If that is your mandate as human then good luck with that lol. My stance is our scope on the realities of life and matter in the universe as humans is very limited and we love to pretend we have it all figured out.
But I would like to ask something regarding your 1st point, regardless of what any christian you may have come across may have stated, to believe that we came from apes goes against the very first chapters of the christian Bible. Man made from dust. There was no animal (ape or ape-like), then a successive change over time to then become human according. It was dust then man according to the bible. So I must ask in what capacity do you mean when you say "Christians in science that believe in evolution"? Because i myself believe in natural selection, which is not the same as evolution, key part of it yes but believing and accepting natural selection is not the same as saying I believe in evolution and all it's facets.