2014-02-05, 02:31 PM
Niernen Wrote:God is pretty messed up in that case.
Christians use the Fall of Man i.e. disobedience in the Garden of Eden as a root theory explaining that our disobedience resulted in failures on many other levels including moral, mental, physical, and genetic failures resulting in the problems and diseases we face today.
xparasite9 Wrote:#wow #whoa
Ken Ham Wrote:However, if we weren’t there in the past to observe events, how can we know what happened so we can explain the present? It would be great to have a time machine so we could know for sure about past events.
Christians of course claim they do, in a sense, have a “time machine.” They have a book called the Bible which claims to be the Word of God who has always been there, and has revealed to us the major events of the past about which we need to know.
On the basis of these events (Creation, Fall, Flood, Babel, etc.), we have a set of presuppositions to build a way of thinking which enables us to interpret the evidence of the present.
Evolutionists have certain beliefs about the past/present that they presuppose, e.g. no God (or at least none who performed acts of special creation), so they build a different way of thinking to interpret the evidence of the present.
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