2014-01-23, 03:45 AM
hongyu Wrote:How are you going to trade with the adc if you have no burst? As I said adcs don't do well against champions with burst so I'm not talking about high base damage champions like rengar and the other thing I said is adcs with escapes. Let's say your tank goes up to me, first of all how is he going to get up to me? With a gap closer? Then I use my escape. This is especially true for caitlyn with her long range. First of all How are you exactly trading me while dealing massive damage? I have 18% lifesteal with the BT and lifesteal quints, you have pots and 2 tank items, if you are a tank with no burst you likely only do a bit of sustained damage. Enough to maybe do 50% of my hp in one combo and this is if you land your combo with my escape counted in as well. 50% of my hp is very easy to recover with 18% lifesteal while you are using pots to recover still.
Also warden's mail is going to be situational depending on the range of the adc and is it worth to constantly hitting you, if I have a lower range I'm obviously going to hit you a lot less because the range of your spells are likely equivalent to my attack range. The only one who would constantly hit you would be either vayne due to wanting to proc w or cait who has extremely high range.
I didn't say just pick adc into anything, I said you pick the adc if you know who you are up against. If you are a weak melee laner without burst, you are likely going to be constantly zoned out early, if you do get armor eventually the adc would have their lifesteal item, so you essentially ends up making the lane into a farm lane mid game unless you get ganks
The point of adc top is because you know you can zone the enemy laner, you know they can't burst you early, thus you will always get free damage on them unless they get ganks.
My apologies I thought you meant mechanically wise tbh. So forgive me
As for the adc top thing, I am absolutely sure quinn is the most picked adc for top. Not vayne. Quinn's kit is way better for dueling in the top lane due to the nature of her kit with blind and a backward dash + mini stun with slow.
Adc tops are not popular not necessarily because they don't fit in the top lane or what not. It's mainly because you give up a tanky top laner or assassin in exchange for another adc, all this means is that you need a super mega tank in the jungle as well as your support likely has to be someone really tanky like leona. Along with this comes with the fact that all they end up literally doing is zoning the enemy all day. They cannot really help much with low cc jungler ganks(not only adc problem tbh, a lot of laners can't) and they usually cannot go right onto their target due to their squishiness but just constantly having safe poke all day.
The advantage you get from this is obviously more sustained damage, which means if your frontline is decent, you will just shred away in teamfights whether they are tanks or not.
That's probably true. I forgot about Quinn. Sometimes I forget she exists.