2009-01-02, 11:23 AM
Harrisonized Wrote:Spouse chat =/= Whisper chat. You don't use one for the other. And if both are bad, why bother bringing them up.
Whisper chat > spouse chat. It does everything spouse chat does and more. Even if I don't use it more than all of the other chats, it's still what makes spouse chat as unnecessary as it is and I have to acknowledge it.
Harrisonized Wrote:That's not what I meant. What I meant is behavior, which is what's "normal", or, if there's a definition for "normal", not "acting" does not exist. All people act. Is existance, not an act? You act like you're great? You act like your smart? You act the way you act in order to send messages to other people all time, using the same principle as you would "act" online. So what's the difference? "All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players," as quoted from Shakespeare.
So define normal. "Not acting" does not exist.
Normal is a person or a group's preconceived notion of what is to be expected of someone. Existence isn't an act. You don't choose to exist. The differences between real life and the realm of anonymity are consequences and fear of having to face those consequences. The world can't be compared to the internet because everyone involved in the world isn't there intentionally, whereas everything you do online is your own decision, right down to even being on the internet in the first place. You control what you experience and can manipulate many things to work to your desire without encountering any real danger to your wellbeing. There are some risks, but they are nothing compared to those that exist in real life.
Harrisonized Wrote:That's because in real life, there's actually enforcement. Online, there's no enforcement for any crime, which is why you can hack online games and get away with it but not break into bank vaults in real life and not face some sort of punishment.
Pretty much. I mean, not exactly that there will be a punishment, but just the chance of there being one. That being reduced as much as it is online causes people to behave in completely different ways.
Harrisonized Wrote:While that's true, it's also true that only stupid people would go online just to lie. I don't see how that's productive in any way.
If the person that does it is stupid, what does it say about the person that gets fooled by it? Getting enjoyment out of harassing people online isn't much worse than getting enjoyment out of having people respect or care about you in an online video game. All games are a waste of time. It's the worst thing to do if you want to do anything productive.
Harrisonized Wrote:Online, while your body is hidden, your personality is NOT. A person is defined by their actions, no? An online person is merely a personality without a body. As I said, people who lie merely because of anonymity are not worth talking to. However, based on experience, many people will not lie. I have the FaceBooks of many people, and they're always consistent with their real figures. I know the FBs aren't faked either. I'm not saying get yourself entangled in a relationship where someone can just log off on you forever but at least treat people like friends while they last.
That's simply not true. What you type doesn't make you who you are. You only show what you like about your personality online. You can see a person's true colors through their facial expressions or through a candid reaction they have. Having a keyboard in front of you to relay how you feel allows for the message to be skewed. The people on facebook are only consistent with what they have to be. The website is set up for social networking, so it's different than a videogame environment of course. People still lie and cheat on facebook. Photos are taken at flattering angles. Comments are edited or deleted in accordance to what a person wants others to think of them.
Harrisonized Wrote:Who doesn't add people who are interesting? When I meet new people, I delete the ones who never talk to me first. Isn't that the same with everyone?
I wasn't trying to say I was the only one. You asked about buddy lists so I just put it as plainly as I could. That's generally what I have on my buddy list.
Harrisonized Wrote:Sighs. When did I say I was going to go into a relationship? I merely said that I wanted a friend, not an eharmony romance. Also, I disagree with the second part of the quote that all people are old and ugly. Are you old and ugly? What are the chances that the people you meet are similar to you? Wouldn't you choose similar people to be friends with?
Many romances start as "friendships." I'm almost old. In a few more years I'll be an adult. I'm not ugly. The chances are very low, but yes, I would want to be friends with similar people. The problem is that there is no means of them actually proving that they are decent friends in a videogame. I've had enough experience with "friends" in real life running away and leaving me hanging at the first sign of trouble, and to think that someone who can quit the game at any time would be a loyal friend would be absolutely absurd.
Harrisonized Wrote:And as your post says, everyone's a liar. Well then, since everyone does not exempt you and I, who are both liars, under your terms, then it does not exempt your friends as well so why bother meeting them? So you can meet interesting liars and interesting fakers? People who can tell elaborate stories about themselves, in other words.
I am a liar, and I doubt anyone that plays Maple Story has gone their entire career without lying. The most successful people in the world are all great liars. The bold is true. I do differentiate between people that have good or bad intentions, but there are some people I like that I know are horrible people that I keep buddied regardless, simply because of how hilarious they are and what they can accomplish by lying.
Harrisonized Wrote:So, answer me, if everyone is a fake, everyone is a lie, why bother playing MapleStory? Why bother coming to a forum? Why bother even going online if all you're going to see are liars and fakers?
All that I have ever used the internet for is entertainment and education. Everything related to Maple Story would fall in the entertainment category. It doesn't bother me that everyone lies to get what they want as long as I know that that is what they are doing and I'm not the one being tricked.
