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[COLOR="#cc8899"]J4 dc'd at 15minutes in my first Series game today, never came back - took the enemy team another 20 minutes to end the game. Start off my series with a loss due to a dc - not ideal, but hey, I'll take it as a chance to get better at using Zyra. I would appreciate any thoughts on my or my teammates' builds if you have any. (Sona and Corki were a duo, if that matters).

Then this happens game 2. Zyra ult in Baron pit following up a Sona ult onto 4 people trapped in J4's ult while a Q plant and E plant shred the hell out of people with nearly 600AP and tons of mpen? Mmk. We started out way behind (I stayed ahead in mid, which gave us enough ability to defend turrets until our Corki, KZ, and J4 recovered from a horrible laning phase. We lost the first Baron but managed to only lose our inner mid. Slowly abused the enemy team's poor teamfighting composition/coordination (zyra ult utterly pineappleed Lee and Nunu, Xerath was either too far forward or too far back in every fight (and somehow seemed to do little/no damage to anyone but Sona/Corki) and GP's major contribution to fights was his ult and a bit of pre-fight poking that Sona usually just healed up.

 Continuing my habit of looking at builds post-game:

Xerath started with 2 FC and some potions, while I went for Dring+pots. This became a chalice vs 2x Doran Rings. Both of us consistently went nearly OOM trying to push the other, but I usually came out ahead in cs and health. I can't really fault any of his itemization, considering how far behind he ended up being in gold/cs. Dunno how I feel about Zhonya's on him, though - he may be the one mage I wouldn't buy it on given his ridiculous ranges. If someone gets to you, you're probably dead anyway. I'm still debating whether it was right to delay my Zhonya's, but I think it paid off in the end. Most fights the enemy were nowhere near me (half of them I had to flash in to snare/ult because I was so far back) so I rarely would've needed the active. I traded up the Doran's for a Grail after finishing Liandry's, once I had mid pretty solidly won.

Vayne's build was solid (excepting perhaps Trinity, now that it's post-nerf for Ranged?). The GA was a bit early, but she didn't have the backup she needed to fight through our ridiculous AOE and cc, so it's understandable. Ultimately she just never got going past laning phase and stayed basically useless. She might've had a bit too much attack speed/mobility and not enough damage assuming Blood Boil was on her constantly. Not sure about the Corki Cleaver and Cowl (Half his skills do magic damage and he already has plenty of true damage/armor shred, half our team was heavy magic damage. He probably could've used something else more effectively, but at least it has AD, CDR, and HP). KZ also had one, so it wasn't really necessary on Corki. Cowl is weird when only Xerath has magic damage, but it did help him recover HP through pre-fight poke wars.

Sona and Nunu: Pretty standard support builds. Sona was basically correct in not finishing Locket given that Xerath was so far behind for most of the game, but the active would've helped a bit in a few situations. Given how much she was wandering around alone (No idea how she never got caught out alone when she was in the river where we had no vision. Nunu never got boots2, but Blood Boil makes that not as bad. He didn't ever really do anything besides bloodboil Vayne and blow up anyway.

KZ/GP: I have no idea how Kha Zix didn't finish his Muramana. I think he bought the tear late, at which point why bother. GP basically went critplank/pokeplank and did his job well enough - a few ults from long range caused issues in early teamfights before the damage started falling off. He was pretty successful split pushing/keeping KZ top lane but became massively useless when we started getting ahead. He still contributed a lot of damage, but the bar is misleading - most of it was chip damage/pre-fight poke that quickly got healed away. GP was the only one on their team to get Merc Treads.

Lee / J4: I love J4's Randuin's Omen, great buy vs a Vayne. Gives you a ton of defensive stats and cripples her mobility if she's trying to fight you. It won't stop her from killing you, but it makes her take quite a bit longer to do so. I don't recall seeing him use the active, but most of the teamfights had spell effects everywhere, so hard to say. Lee bought a sunfire but never splitpushed, so I can't really say that I think it was a smart buy. The Ninja Tabi on Lee were a horrible choice: Corki does a lot of true damage and damage through skillshots anyway, KZ has plenty of non-auto attack damage...Merc Treads, CDR boots, or Mobility would've been smarter. Not sure about hexdrinker on J4 either, given that basically only Xerath or GP are likely to trigger it.

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