2013-09-27, 05:49 PM
Imagine Wrote:"Long delay and it hits minions as well."1) You clearly didn't get that point. Her W is a slow skill shot that can be easily blocked by minions.
Tristana's e hits minions.
"She has no escape"
Same goes for kog'maw, varus, sivir, urgot for ADs. Why do people play them if they have no escapes?
"Only thing that could be remotely construed as OP in her kit. Base damage is irrelevant since it'll be leveled last."
High base damages early = stronger laning. Early game can make the difference between a win and a loss.
"And I'm at least 15 percent certain you haven't played her at all."
I don't have to play release vayne to know that she was broken (if you play MTG, I don't need to have played Jace the Mind Sculptor to understand why he's worth so much money) or play release thresh to know how strong he was .You don't necessarily need to play something to understand how it works, or else no one would want MonteCristo to do anything lol related (he hasn't played LoL in 7+ months. people should just stop watching this guy because he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about based on this.) and no one would want the Korean shoutcasters to shoutcast a game they don't play.
The reason she's strong is not because she does things better than most ADCs, but because of the massive utility from her kit. For a crappy AS scaling and low AA range, you get a toned down version of (almost) the best of everything. Individually, each one of her elements is fair/strong and/or situational, but combined together, you get a very powerful champion.
Even though it doesn't look overwhelming, strong utility is incredibly powerful. She will not be strong enough to merit immediate nerfs, but she will be strong enough to merit some sort of change.
2) Sivir isn't played. Kog'Maw needs a peeler (not to mention he's pretty high skill cap anyways with his like 475 auto range or whatever it is). Urgot has seen a lot less play recently after he was nerfed from tank-carry status. I don't know how much attention Varus has been getting lately, but then again there's always exceptions.
3) You're not going to be leveling up your E first; it's a one-point-wonder skill. If you don't level your Q early you lose out on AS, range, and damage. If you don't level your W it's overall pathetic. Therefore the base damage of her E is more or less irrelevant since it's not going to be level first (or probably even second). Not to mention that it's on a like a 20 second cooldown at rank 1 so you're not even going to be spamming it a lot.
4) On paper she has a lot, but there's a lot that's kind of lost in execution. Even Riot was like "she looks strong but her kit has a lot of quirks that aren't in the skill description." Furthermore, yeah she has a fair amount of cc, but again, her W is slow skillshot and her root is on a long cooldown. She doesn't even do this massive utility kit nearly as well as someone like Ashe (who was until her Arrow nerfs at least, the queen of utility and she sacrificed a lot of damage for it too).