2013-09-12, 08:24 PM
HAHAHA oh man this speech is just delicious.
Why should I, as a player, be stripped for content just because I didn't buy anything. You're essentially condoning the retardation that is pay to win. They reward those who do pay way more than they reward diligent work. There's no legitimate proportion, just, you either die poor, hack or pay a grand to experience the fun parts of the game. The top 5% aren't because they are disciplined, it's because they have either cheated, lucked out from a glitch or broke bank.
Any player with characters pre 2008 can make this argument. Anything beyond is just laughed off the stage. You really think merchanting is still a viable make thousands of dollars of nx? Ya know, without the cheating aspect? That's hilarious. Your friend, or your example does not justify everyone is successful from hardwork, especially in todays meta game. Then you argue that this is all justified based on the simple fact they know what their investment is?
Most players, in fact don't. It starts off with "hey, lets get a good amount of % gear" and spend roughly a part time jobs entire paycheck. Then it escalates out of envy and investing into a character that can be independent based on boss drops. If you notice, most of these players are high school to mid college student's because they aren't mature enough to fathom what they are investing into. It's not like these kids suddenly come out of the wood work willing to spend 3 grand (For context, you can buy a car for that much, down payment I mean).
Your head is so far up your ass it's not even worth saving at this point. Their entire business model is to get as many players to spend as quickly as possible without them coming to this epiphany that there's not much at the top of the mountain. In context you threw away, what? 15k nx for 11 cubes or something? you say 60, that's $150, for how much of a % increase on your unnecessary damage? That's almost half way to a graphics card that can bump out enough graphical power to play a game that doesn't cost such unnecessary amounts of money. But that's your choice, you're having "fun". They hold players like you in because you love the constant growth, but other players throw $50 on heny clothes and run away. If they really did give two sh`its about the players as you claim, the ticketing system wouldn't be a nightmare, your account wouldn't always be at risk of being banned just for logging in, and god there's just too many to list.
I don't care about your personal relationship with the game, but the reality is, they don't care. If you got hacked tomorrow, because of a database leak, they wouldn't tell you, they'd hold you accountable, and all of your investments would dissapear, with little to no compensation. The next boss you fight, who you have fought a million and one times before, could auto ban your ass, they could tell you that they find you guilty without providing any evidence. In fact they will unless it's a dozen of players complaining the same thing. That's the liability you not only sign up for, but you're clearly not aware of. Either that or, like how I assume every maplestory player is, you're just a general masochist.
[MENTION=5658]xparasite9[/MENTION];
I'll get to you in a sec
Darkstars Wrote:Simple flaw in your logic. As stated again and again, the game is freaking free to play. Is there a gun to your head forcing you to pay? No. Believe it or not buying NX is not the only freaking way to play this game. I have a number of friends who have never passed 140, they just play leisurely. Spending money in this game is pretty much entirely about getting damage. Guess what? Not everyone needs to hit in the millions. There are plenty of people who don't care about soloing empress, who don't care about rank 1 dojo gloves. Hell there are people who don't even know there's a legendary potential tier.
Why should I, as a player, be stripped for content just because I didn't buy anything. You're essentially condoning the retardation that is pay to win. They reward those who do pay way more than they reward diligent work. There's no legitimate proportion, just, you either die poor, hack or pay a grand to experience the fun parts of the game. The top 5% aren't because they are disciplined, it's because they have either cheated, lucked out from a glitch or broke bank.
Darkstars Wrote:But you're focusing on the ones who spend money. Fine lets argue that. First of all I have a close friend who has no spent a cent on this game in their entire life. They're quite wealthy in every respect and fairly well known. I feel I have to repeat that not a single cent. They merched hard, made the right connections, did surveys for their freaking shop permit. So no you're argument that there are only three types of people is flawed. Secondly you're assuming people are oblivious to the fact that high damage in this game costs money. If you care enough about damage I can guarantee they already know it's not cheap. Very few people ever spend money on this game and think "$30 is gonna make me so godly".
Any player with characters pre 2008 can make this argument. Anything beyond is just laughed off the stage. You really think merchanting is still a viable make thousands of dollars of nx? Ya know, without the cheating aspect? That's hilarious. Your friend, or your example does not justify everyone is successful from hardwork, especially in todays meta game. Then you argue that this is all justified based on the simple fact they know what their investment is?
Most players, in fact don't. It starts off with "hey, lets get a good amount of % gear" and spend roughly a part time jobs entire paycheck. Then it escalates out of envy and investing into a character that can be independent based on boss drops. If you notice, most of these players are high school to mid college student's because they aren't mature enough to fathom what they are investing into. It's not like these kids suddenly come out of the wood work willing to spend 3 grand (For context, you can buy a car for that much, down payment I mean).
Darkstars Wrote:Lastly it's in no way an exhaustive business model. You know what is? A ponzi scheme. Nexon doesn't rely on getting $20 out of some teen and throwing them to the curb. They rely of people buying again and again. I've spent a large amount of money on this game, why? Cuz it's freaking fun. Yes sometimes I get nothing for 60 cubes. Other times I get 3 legendary items in 11 cubes. The gambling is addicting, whether that's right is an argument in and of itself. But the point stands, you have no data to back up your assertion that "eventually this comes to a toppling point". In fact that argument has been made since Nexon started selling gachapon tickets. The "illusion" hasn't shattered yet and I see no reason it will in the future.
Edit: So I take it this isn't the TS' first time arguing this.
Your head is so far up your ass it's not even worth saving at this point. Their entire business model is to get as many players to spend as quickly as possible without them coming to this epiphany that there's not much at the top of the mountain. In context you threw away, what? 15k nx for 11 cubes or something? you say 60, that's $150, for how much of a % increase on your unnecessary damage? That's almost half way to a graphics card that can bump out enough graphical power to play a game that doesn't cost such unnecessary amounts of money. But that's your choice, you're having "fun". They hold players like you in because you love the constant growth, but other players throw $50 on heny clothes and run away. If they really did give two sh`its about the players as you claim, the ticketing system wouldn't be a nightmare, your account wouldn't always be at risk of being banned just for logging in, and god there's just too many to list.
I don't care about your personal relationship with the game, but the reality is, they don't care. If you got hacked tomorrow, because of a database leak, they wouldn't tell you, they'd hold you accountable, and all of your investments would dissapear, with little to no compensation. The next boss you fight, who you have fought a million and one times before, could auto ban your ass, they could tell you that they find you guilty without providing any evidence. In fact they will unless it's a dozen of players complaining the same thing. That's the liability you not only sign up for, but you're clearly not aware of. Either that or, like how I assume every maplestory player is, you're just a general masochist.
[MENTION=5658]xparasite9[/MENTION];
I'll get to you in a sec