2013-08-03, 08:37 PM
Vino Wrote:First of all, that is your interpretation. Therein lies nothing specific about using legitimate NX to trade with legitimate mesos. Once the NX is bought, the owner has payed real money. The difference between using items as currency, instead of direct NX is none. The other person who bought the NX with mesos will still use the NX, whether through gifting/cubing/etc.
It's the law sherlock.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/5362
For it to be a wager it would have to hold a value, NX points hold a value until you spend them on maplestory software ie specific in game items. Sure you can attempt to fabricate a meso to nx cash trade, but that's against the rules for your own protection of being scammed. By purchasing an NX item with meso through in game means (which they conveniently made possible) we refer back to the picture I drew you.
Vino Wrote:Again, you say that you don't side with Nexon, yet you're saying they "should" enforce every rule whenever they please. Why?
Because you agreed to it. That's the bottom line, it doesn't matter if it's morally wrong or not, you said they could, so they should. There is no argument against this as there is nothing to regulate it, period.
Vino Wrote:It's a direct comparison between rules and policies. They both state the company has full authority and can terminate you within their own discretion.
It is a customer's privilege to be in any restaurant, mall, shop, game, or whatever have you. I don't see your point.
But you're paying for food, you want a quality service. When you purchase an nx card, it's worded specifically "rewarded". They don't provide any service besides you being able to have access and they will reward you for your gracious charitable donation.
tos Wrote:For each "real world" U.S. Dollar that you authorize us to charge to your credit card, you will be awarded one thousand (1000) units of Nexon Cash;
Vino Wrote:You're saying they a right to be unfair, and they should be unfair.
I'm saying they have the capability to be unfair, and they shouldn't be unfair.
But yours is simply a subjective request, while mine is fact. They can legally do whatever they want, morally it doesn't matter. They just can because they have no regulating authority above them. So it doesn't matter if you request it because the only people who have the authority to make your request is the company you requested.
Vino Wrote:I'm sure, that if Nexon's reputation continues to decline, it will lose a lot of business rapidly. Whether someone is fed up and attacks their server, or somewhere down the line they screw up, and some miraculous family manages to sue them for whatever insane reason.
They have millions of dollars not specifically from maplestory. Although I will say that it's their cash cow. By playing the game you are being anti productive of this "vision" you see, stop being a sheep and lead the way if you think it's plausible.
Vino Wrote:Me, living life, is already an automatic compliance with my complete freedom, so according to you, I am surrendering myself. Just remember, that we do this in all aspects of life. Why should it any different here?
Yes we sacrifice freedom for security and safety. You have no argument here, because you can't give me an answer. Who will defend you? Who regulates them? NO ONE FOR F`UCK SAKE. You surrender all of that for this service because there isn't an option, if you have one GIVE IT.
Vino Wrote:Again, it doesn't matter that every ToS states they can terminate your use of their service for whatever reason they please without justification. I or any other normal person who gets the short end of the stick for something we didn't do, will go to bat and do something at the very least. Whether that be something common, like stop using their service and letting others know how terrible it is. Or take it two steps further and continuously post videos/blogs/etc to destroy reputation.
ARE YOU F`uCKING KIDDING ME. JESUS CHRIST DUDE, you think nexon has a good reputation Laugh My Fucking Ass Off.[SIZE=3][SIZE=2]
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All and I mean all of that has been done, GENERATIONS before you. Use google for christ sake.
Vino Wrote:Or maybe even be vindictive enough to crash the game so often it has to shut down. This has happened to a server on minecraft that I played on, where the admins/mods were complete arseholes, had double standards, and used authority for personal satisfaction. Guess what, they were successful for about half a year, making a decent amount of money as side cash, but karma went and bit them in the ass. The server has been attacked so much, they decided to just shut it down.
...This has been done before too -_-. Half of the duping issues happened just because of this. Anymore idea's? Not even confronting you probably don't even half the capable software to even do it yourself.
Vino Wrote:Sure, Nexon is a bigger corporation, that also means a larger audience.
But you'll see it's maplestory specifically with these complaints. So it's a small fraction of the audience. Also, because you're so goddamn lost on what the problem is. It's the maplestory Korean CEO's who give us the problems. So congratulations, you shut down nexon America, yet the policies and money making still is making millions from Japan/China/Korea.
Vino Wrote:If everyone knew the entirety of the "terms and conditions" every time they checked off that box, everyone would be too scared to use anything.
Your point? That they are no longer enforceable because of ignorance? "I didn't know I couldn't exploit this glitch, it seems silly that I can't!!". Seriously.
Vino Wrote:I play, because I am bored, you are here, because you are bored. Surely you understand that you're life is just as meaningless. You think you have contributed to the community? You have exhausted the resources of this world just like everyone else, and you are the same piece of sh!t as all of us.
I quit, and that action brought others to quit, which showed more of an impact on nexons revenue stream than your actions have done. The point, you have again, missed, is that you can spend waste your time with something that won't wipe you off the planet. You're playing a straight up abusive game and you think I'm judging you on how you live your life? I'm judging you how you choose to spend your time, especially with your strongly contradictory opinion. "Nexon is evil! -continues to play", dumb logic is dumb.
Vino Wrote:I'm not quitting at the moment, but I can, and so can the next. It already has begun. Having only 3-4 people in the FM on channel 1 is a clear indication that maplestory is dying. The fact that everyone is using smegaphones and moaning/complaining about Nexon, means that it is dying.
People have been saying maplestory is dead since 2006 for christ sake. The reason why there's no people in fm channel 1 is because it's become worthless. Shops are more productive and requires no attention. You clearly haven't been playing that long.
Vino Wrote:No one cares about evil or justice or whatever. What people care about, is themselves. If someone personally screws them over for doing nothing wrong, people will get mad. Get enough people mad, and you have a problem.
It's already happened, multiple times, nothing has changed, and for you to wait for it based on these observations that have been available to you for almost a decade, is idiotic.

