PSA: GMs are banning players for attendance.

You never copy pasted anything directly from the ToS that supported your point.
Therefore, there was never establishment that you were not allowed to buy NX/NX items with mesos.
Yet you can sell NX items through a hired merchant/permit, and you can also gift. Two options that completely defy this "made-up" rule that doesn't exist.
Real world trading =/= in game trading.

You're arguing a rule me and a user posted. Your response is SS a method to transfer specific CS items? Let me explain to you the legal problem with making pure nx transferable with mesos. Most of what nexon does is considered gambling, however, because you purchase the nx card you're essentially giving nexon money where nexon rewards you with an advertised amount of NX points. That transaction is the only legal transaction the united states (or any country for that matter) recognizes. Some states don't charge and sales and use tax, because they don't recognize the transaction as "goods".

Now here's where your argument cracks through, you essentially then use the points to purchase an item, which is a valueless software, defined by the TOS. By trading straight NX for meso it is in fact, considered real life trading. Because you're directly taking the points you purchased and putting them for mesos. Item's are entirely different circumstance, because you have bought into their software. There is a reason there is no method to convert meso into nx or vice versa direcetly. NX directly has a value, 25k for $25, but once you spend that 25k nx on anything in the game, it's no longer a direct proportion, you now, by Nexon's TOS, own a piece of it's valueless software.

No, it doesn't mean they should, it means that they have the authority to do so. Enacting all possible authorization without justification is not something that a company should do just for the sake of doing it.
Every single corporate business will have similar policies that outline their rules to protect themselves.

If you break the rule's it's under the discretion to cherry pick which rules they want to enforce, the point is, they should and can enforce any rules you agree to follow. Period.

Almost every company has the right to terminate you if they deem you "reasonably unfit" for the position.
Just because you agree that they have the right to do so, doesn't mean that you don't get to defend yourself. Why? Because in this scenario, the reason ISN'T reasonable.

They have to prove it first off. That is a legal discussion that we aren't going to have since the TOS goes over your head. It's a poor example because you're taking a form of employment in comparison of getting the privilege to use a service.

We don't have freedom, we live under a world with laws. We have broken many, and we have all agreed to comply with the law. According to your silly notion of what is correct and incorrect, any government or official has the authority and right to fine/arrest/prosecute you.
It doesn't matter if they have absolute right to do as they please, we have the absolute right to argue within reasonable boundaries.


Imagine you were new to a country and had to get onto a skytrain, and had to pay a fare. There are three zones total, each costing more than the next.
Your fare is a two zone, and you have to travel three.
On the back of the fare, there is no mention of any zone.
At the skytrain station itself, there is no sign or notice to ensure that you have paid for the extra zone.
You get off the skytrain, and the transit police arrest you and fine you $2000 dollars.
They don't give you a reason, they send you home with a two thousand dollar fine, expecting you to pay within a certain time period.

After hours of research, you finally manage to scrape up some vague policies about fares/zones on their main website in size 6 font after clicking through 25 odd links to get there.


Sure, they outlined that policy, sure, once you agreed to use the skytrain you have complied to their regulations, but you know what? We have every right to defend ourselves, because what they have done is not ethical, fair or just.

Apples and Oranges. See what you're unable to grasp, whether through sheer ignorance or stubbornness, is that the law does not just limits you, it protects you. So what you're telling me is Nexon is not fair in doing so, but nothing in the world can stop them from doing so. Nothing. So what course of action or arguments are you going to present and to whom? To the company who shanked you? The BBB may listen to your inquiries but that doesn't mean jack either.

That's the bottom line.

It is called exploitation, lack of diligence, and these are things that can be brought into the court to support your position.
There is a specific difference between willful ignorance and being purposely exploited. (Yes, I understand that you think they have the right to do whatever they want, but majority of them do, and it doesn't mean majority has to enact unruly actions)

Yes but Nexon's method of management of maplestory is not ever going to reach the court of law. It's very clear, you don't like the service, quit. It's even in the ToS. What do you think you can go to court and waste taxpayers money arguing over software that has no value? Free also means free of liability unfortunately. Figure this would all be a no-brainer but I guess I over estimated you.

A noob would and could entirely be in that position. I was. I only had money because I spent NX at the time. Did I still know prices? No. Perhaps others may have, but I have not. Does that mean I should suffer for their actions? No. It means I should be able to defend myself.

I agree, you should be able to defend yourself, like every mother f`ucking other person with common sense. The point is you can't. It has always been that way, and you signing up and using their service you surrender yourself to that treatment. Period.

Do you read? Or do you like cropping sentences out of my posts so that you can make a point that I've already refuted?
"If I were at a guest's house, and the rules of their household were very strict, and the owners of that household didn't care enough to establish what rules to follow"

Then your example is wrong. You are not a guest at nexon america, you are requesting to use their service. You're asking me to borrow my marker, you never own anything you do in any Nexon game, ever, you relinquish that right of ownership. You like many other players don't understand this, and feel more entitled as a user. Well, reading the ToS< which you still havent done, you'll see it's clearly the opposite as you forfeit pretty much everything.

If you lived throughout history with the mindset that you have now, you would be the biggest doormat to the feudal system. You would be one of those people who think rules are rules and if we live life, then we live by those rules.

Again, just because they outlined they have full superiority over you, doesn't mean they have to enact it.
Again, just because your boss has the power to fire you at any moment in time, and lie about the reasons as to why he/she did it, it doesn't mean he/she has to enact upon it.

Wow. You really haven't read anything have you? I quit using this system because there is no way to fight it, you have no legal standing against something like this. You do in real life, you have methods to combat what is considered unfair, you do not in the games of Nexon. So it doesn't matter how you think, or feel about how they do things, they can do it because there's nothing in your 17 year old brain that can stop them. Instead of trying to argue with me the obvious solutions to most unfair practices in business', you give me a non-fictional one that you could fight nexon with? You can't, because there isn't a method to combat a practice that in the eyes of the law, is fictional.

You never corrected anything, you never posted anything that stated you cannot buy NX with mesos in any way shape or form. You know why? Because you can. They gave you two options of doing it.

It says so in the TOS, the end. But I elaborated the legal crap behind it earlier just for you.

I only play, because I have invested a lot of time in it, and I'm crossing my fingers that they don't screw me over for something entirely unreasonable.
It doesn't mean that I have to accept being penetrated up the arse or watch others.

Yes you have, or you're ignorant of it. What have you done to attempt to stop it? Argue with me the moral dilemma that they don't give a crap about, clearly? You play because you're addicted, period, as any rational person would not put up with the service with the restrictions presented. They are there and your account is always at risk, just from playing the frekin game. You lag during a boss? Game recognizes it as no delay and bans you. Jump while flying on the crane from mulang to orbis? Permanent ban. These all have exited, including database leaks. So you're clearly the psychopath here.

Again, just because you agreed to their terms which states what they are allowed to do within reasonable discretion, doesn't mean you don't have the right to argue that they're in the wrong. Every large money making machine has similar policies, it does NOT mean they are invincible. Every company is subject to their customers whether sooner or later.

And what authority regulates such policies? There isn't one for a system like this. The only way for the customers opinion to even matter is if you stop using the service. You can't do it, so why can the guy next to you can? Because it's not an issue until it's become a personal issue. Out of the two of us, I have done more for the better of the community than you have in your entirety of playing this game.

If you keep banning for unjustified reasons, and don't have the diligence to inform the party of why, then you will eventually lose service.

Really? I mean, are you so sure of that? Because history is about to sh`it all over you. There are at least a half dozen instances of hundreds of players at a time being banned unfairly. Where players got hacked because of nexons database leak which they didnt even inform us about until 3 months later. Yet you still play, like other players still play. You believe in the power of the customers opinion which surely will eventually come together and stamp out evil! F`uck off, that is fiction. Most people who get banned make a new account and come back thinking they can become better, that surely they will be more efficient, that nexon can't hold them down.
If you keep letting people die because you didn't hire a maintenance crew to repair a few theme park rides, then you will eventually lose service.

Just because you state that you hold no responsibility over someone else, doesn't mean that you hold NO responsibility.

What responsibility does nexon hold specifically? It's a free service, there's no real requirement besides sign up to be able to play, what legal action can you and I take if my account gets compromised? What makes you think that nexon can't outspend you in the court system, until you're bankrupt over a small claim of perhaps "traumatizing experience". You know nothing of the real world, you're a naive child who is desperately clinging to some sense that everything in the world has some justice, it has too, there has to be repercussions to those who do wrong! This is in movies for a reason, Nexon hold's no responsibility, there is nothing that holds them accountable, no authority above them. All you as a person can do is leave and leave the sh`itty feedback on their BBB rating. That's the limitation of something that the law does not recognize after you purchase that NX card, everything in the game is for free, purely fictitious, if you lose your account, you lose nothing but time.