2013-08-03, 02:52 AM
KhainiWest Wrote:No the bottom line is they can adjust their rules accordingly, which they did. You said you read 70% of the TOS but I feel like you just did a few CNTRL F's and light reading. It is not allowed, and just because it was doesn't mean it's permanent.
"I'm new to DC, I wasn't aware that the traffic lights are on the right hand side instead of above me, no ticket pls". There is a reasonable amount of common sense, if you're an ignorant "noob" you wouldn't be caught buying 400 of them, because first off, chaos scrolls have very ambiguous descriptions. Secondly how can a noob have more than 100m without transacting with others, or even browsing the fm? Sell NX? Illegal, they deserve the ban anyway. Most people who bought 8-10 were put on temp bans and the scrolls removed, as a noob, would you care that much? No. Your examples are piss poor at base.
Quote anywhere that I said they are? They have the justified authority to do so if the rules they made up are broken. It's your own stupidity that accepted them. You don't join a game and say "THE RULES DONT APPLY TO ME NO MATTER HOW SILLY". You chose to take their service WITH that ridiculous standard laid out to you. You're trying to argue from a subjective perspective and that's not a productive conversation.
First of all, I don't need to read the fact that I'm not allowed to use any third party program or release private info or blah blah blah. Why? Because it doesn't apply in ANY WAY to this conversation, therefore it is ENTIRELY unrelated.
Therefore your argument is completely pointless and it just makes you seem like a pretentious pimento, which I can guarantee you are.
I am not saying they can't. I am saying that just because you have power and authority, doesn't mean that you are right.
Just because people were executed for disobeying a tyrant-king's order, doesn't mean that the king is right.
Sure, do whatever the heck you want, you are in the position to do so, just keep in mind that again, it doesn't make it right.
In this scenario, it is completely reasonable to buy something while being 100% unaware that it was duped.
Why? Because duping was a myth, at least to me. I have never seen it, never been around it, never been involved in it in any way, shape or form.
The most I could chalk up the reasoning to is that the person selling it was either extremely rich, nice or stupid, or was planning to quit.
If you see a good deal, and you're not told that you're suppose to be cautious when purchasing any item, then you should not be at fault.
Traffic lights are hard to miss, but even then, some people may get off with a warning, because it is within reasonable bounds.
If I were at a guest's house, and the rules of their household were very strict, and the owners of that household didn't care enough to establish what rules to follow - does it mean they have every right to enact every law under the book?
If it were something as simple as putting a pen away in the wrong area, do you think it would be reasonable if they scolded me and kicked me out of their house and went as far as to obtain/attempt to obtain a restraining order?
If any of those answers were yes, then you have some very weird ideals, and have no grasp at what is reasonably understandable. You also have no ability to empathize, which is linked to traits of a psychopath.
You are, by the very fact that you are trying to argue a point that I never disagreed with. There was a never a rule to begin with, therefore they have no moral right to do ban people that have followed the ToS.
If you're going to be stingy that the ToS is never followed to the T, then they might as well ban 80% of their users and lose ALL profit.
For the 29th (or 100th) and final time, my argument was that it isn't morally right, the ToS never established the rule that they "may" have banned for, and that just because you agreed to "the terms and conditions that underlines the fact that they can terminate you without justification" - doesn't mean you can't defend yourself.
When you sign a waiver that requires you admit to them having no responsibility over your death or injury, you are accepting that they don't. But you at least HOPE they would have due diligence to ensure your safety.
You don't go participate in rock climbing, get handed a form, sign it, and expect nothing but the worse.
That "terms of service/conditions" is there to protect the company from the complete morons, but it doesn't mean you have to treat the common person like they're utterly useless.
That's just bad business and horrible ethics.
The rules don't apply if there were never rules to begin with. If you start out at a new job, and it states that the manager's responsibility is to train you and inform you of what you have to know, then it is entirely their responsibility, because you have absolute NO way of knowing.
I think it's safe to say that you have particular odd and ignorant views on life in general, and perhaps you should question your own perspective.