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Simple questions, Simple answers.
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Words Wrote:In safe lane, playing support you can stack and pull. Should I only pull when it's stacked? I just did it in a game but I noticed that I'd miss stacks because enemies were harassing me or trying to block it so I had to harass them out and miss the stack but if I pull without stacking first there would be two waves pushing their tower.

If you aren't able to stack you should do what is called a double pull.
As radiant this includes cutting down the trees behind the medium camp near your tower, this allows you to pull the creeps from the medium camp near the rune to the creeps as the creeps from the other medium camp are about to die.
It's a bit harder but removes the whole stacking aspect and if you attack just enough allows you to clear both camps with nearly every pull which gives loadsa experience and cash.
For dire it's a bit harder but basically includes pulling the hard camp near the radiant top tower to your own medium camp near your own tower. I'm not sure at exactly what times to pull since they changed the 'leash' timer on creeps. But it should still be fully doable.

And if you're completely prevented from pulling you should stay in lane and protect your carry as support or if your carry is fine on his own or the lane is completely fucked, go roam. This is something too many supports don't realize in pubs, if your carry is pomegranate, don't waste time supporting him. Go find the best player on your team and help him, gank for him, ward his lane.
If your mid laner is your best player by far, go help him and make sure he can snowball, pubs in dota are a completely different can of worms than professional games.
Or if your off-laner is doing great, go help him and make sure he does even better, if your jungler is at the right level to gank grab a smoke and gank with him.

Pulling is nice if your lane is passive and your carry is fine on his own and the off-laner can't stay in lane, but preventing the off-laner from getting experience is far more important. And if it's a 2v2 lane you generally shouldn't pull as it leaves you very vulnerable. You can still stack occasionally though, just incase your lane gets pushed.

Woops went on a rant, but yea.
Generally only pull when it's stacked unless you're going to push a tower or you can double-pull.

Oh and radiant can even pull the big camp near rune towards the medium camp at the rune for a triple pull if you got two creepwaves at a camp for some reason.


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Simple questions, Simple answers. - by Malthe - 2013-07-16, 10:35 AM
Simple questions, Simple answers. - by Words - 2013-07-17, 06:10 AM
Simple questions, Simple answers. - by Malthe - 2013-07-17, 06:17 AM
Simple questions, Simple answers. - by Vanderlust - 2013-07-21, 02:02 PM
Simple questions, Simple answers. - by Words - 2013-07-24, 03:10 PM
Simple questions, Simple answers. - by Chew - 2013-07-24, 03:54 PM
Simple questions, Simple answers. - by Words - 2013-07-24, 04:18 PM

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