2013-05-31, 11:00 AM
Haha, the turn this thread took after I was gone for a couple days is quite funny. But since I apparently have some things to sort out here, here I go:
First, sorry Sardines for mistaking you for Harrison. Other people were mentioning it and I mistook you for him. Should've just called you Sardines, sorry.
Next:
I know right?
Well, first of all Sardines said that he wasn't talking down to me. And if he was then no I was not paying attention. I wouldn't have cared either way. After reading some if not all of what he's said in this topic I value his opinion more than yours. I would have listened to him if he pointed out any problems with what I was saying and then that would've been the end of it. I don't get angry if people talk down to me, people have been doing that all my life and will probably continue to do so even if I someday amount all of the knowledge in the world. It's not that I don't register tone it's that I don't get angry over things like that anymore and that may be mistaken as not knowing when someone is making fun of me or talking down to me to a third person. I personally get it but it doesn't mean that I go on about it.
As for your complaint of her blocking Youtube comments, I've seen some musicians that disable comments in some of their videos but not in others. I'll give you an example too. Tegan and Sara's Northshore has comments disabled but their newest song I Was A Fool doesn't. They are both sisters and are both gay and get harassed by Youtubers all the time for it I believe. If you look at the I Was a Fool video, top rated comment is "Actually they are human beings. Not dykes". Not saying this has anything to do with this particular tropes video but sometimes if you know what the comments are going to be like you may as well just disable them. It can be seen as hiding from bad press much like an embattled politician but people with conviction stick with their conviction normally no matter how much bad press it gets them. It's a part of being able to freely speak your mind and that should be encouraged rather than what some, including you, are trying to do, which is shut her up. She may overuse the melodrama a bit. So what. If you are trying to get people to listen to you you have to use some means to get them to. And she has gotten you. She shall now enjoy some ad revenue thanks to you but not thanks to me because I did not watch the video. Yes you heard me, everything I've been talking about is because I didn't watch it. And why? Because it had spoilers dammit! I HATE SPOILERS. So I went the general way and not the warpath a few of you have taken in your quest to support or defame this woman. I didn't want to take part in that.
As for your "anything on youtube would be badly rated/attacked over "mundane" things" idea, I said good things, not everything. Some things should make you angry. Some videos you will agree or disagree with the musician or reviewer or anybody with an opinion on something you have an opinion on. It just seems like an obsession to some Youtubers to drag down all that is good in something to a level where it fits their image of what it should be or whether or not it is 100% complete in its logic etc. Presentation is part of it like you said because people generally like theatrics. As for your half the rage these people have comment, I would actually like a bit more information on that as what has yet to be said in this thread is how people who make Youtube videos communicate with their fans and handle that rage. And no I will not watch your videos, you big meanie
Get off my high horse? I'll have you know that I am a tall fellow and if I am in need of a horse I would actually need a high horse to be able to ride. But do you care about other people's problems? No, it's just me me me. I hate this, I love that, nobody is listening to me, why are you all such idiots and not listening to my opinion...wah wah wah. My perspective was to try and inform a bit on issues that were being said by Sardines but not being reinforced by anyone else. It doesn't matter to me if anybody listens because I know by now that nobody listens to me. I just like talking and since it's a free country and free forum you'll just have to put up with it.
Oh and no I will not reply to anything else said in this thread as Locked summed it up pretty much. In fact, I think this thread should be...
( _)
( _)>⌐■-■
(⌐■_■
LOCKED.
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
(I am so sorry Locked)
First, sorry Sardines for mistaking you for Harrison. Other people were mentioning it and I mistook you for him. Should've just called you Sardines, sorry.
Next:
Rick Wrote:So much mad in this thread.
I know right?
KhainiWest Wrote:This is needlessly obnoxious. And intelligent conversation? I know the concept of tone doesn't come across to you, but he's talking down to you, because from the information you posted, it was retarded point to make.
1) Little details? So what, the fact that she silences everyone based on bad feedback which in fact is pretty petty in comparison is not a stand alone point? Of course it is. All youtubers, ALL OF THEM, deal with this. Yet, the moment SHE had to, she had to make a goddamn presentation about how "Tits and get the pineapple out" is just heart piercing. She's melodramatic and victimizing herself IRONICALLY by trying to hide all criticism.
2) By your logic, anything on youtube would be badly rated/attacked over "mundane" things. Which is utter bull sh`it. How you present yourself, in and out of the video really determines the feedback. Half the rage these people have is they can't reflect their opinions. If you watch my video's you can see this perspective is not only shared by me, BUT IS ENTIRELY THE PROBLEM.
Get off your high horse.
Well, first of all Sardines said that he wasn't talking down to me. And if he was then no I was not paying attention. I wouldn't have cared either way. After reading some if not all of what he's said in this topic I value his opinion more than yours. I would have listened to him if he pointed out any problems with what I was saying and then that would've been the end of it. I don't get angry if people talk down to me, people have been doing that all my life and will probably continue to do so even if I someday amount all of the knowledge in the world. It's not that I don't register tone it's that I don't get angry over things like that anymore and that may be mistaken as not knowing when someone is making fun of me or talking down to me to a third person. I personally get it but it doesn't mean that I go on about it.
As for your complaint of her blocking Youtube comments, I've seen some musicians that disable comments in some of their videos but not in others. I'll give you an example too. Tegan and Sara's Northshore has comments disabled but their newest song I Was A Fool doesn't. They are both sisters and are both gay and get harassed by Youtubers all the time for it I believe. If you look at the I Was a Fool video, top rated comment is "Actually they are human beings. Not dykes". Not saying this has anything to do with this particular tropes video but sometimes if you know what the comments are going to be like you may as well just disable them. It can be seen as hiding from bad press much like an embattled politician but people with conviction stick with their conviction normally no matter how much bad press it gets them. It's a part of being able to freely speak your mind and that should be encouraged rather than what some, including you, are trying to do, which is shut her up. She may overuse the melodrama a bit. So what. If you are trying to get people to listen to you you have to use some means to get them to. And she has gotten you. She shall now enjoy some ad revenue thanks to you but not thanks to me because I did not watch the video. Yes you heard me, everything I've been talking about is because I didn't watch it. And why? Because it had spoilers dammit! I HATE SPOILERS. So I went the general way and not the warpath a few of you have taken in your quest to support or defame this woman. I didn't want to take part in that.
As for your "anything on youtube would be badly rated/attacked over "mundane" things" idea, I said good things, not everything. Some things should make you angry. Some videos you will agree or disagree with the musician or reviewer or anybody with an opinion on something you have an opinion on. It just seems like an obsession to some Youtubers to drag down all that is good in something to a level where it fits their image of what it should be or whether or not it is 100% complete in its logic etc. Presentation is part of it like you said because people generally like theatrics. As for your half the rage these people have comment, I would actually like a bit more information on that as what has yet to be said in this thread is how people who make Youtube videos communicate with their fans and handle that rage. And no I will not watch your videos, you big meanie
Get off my high horse? I'll have you know that I am a tall fellow and if I am in need of a horse I would actually need a high horse to be able to ride. But do you care about other people's problems? No, it's just me me me. I hate this, I love that, nobody is listening to me, why are you all such idiots and not listening to my opinion...wah wah wah. My perspective was to try and inform a bit on issues that were being said by Sardines but not being reinforced by anyone else. It doesn't matter to me if anybody listens because I know by now that nobody listens to me. I just like talking and since it's a free country and free forum you'll just have to put up with it.
Oh and no I will not reply to anything else said in this thread as Locked summed it up pretty much. In fact, I think this thread should be...
( _)
( _)>⌐■-■
(⌐■_■
LOCKED.
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
(I am so sorry Locked)