2013-05-14, 09:45 AM
FrozNlite Wrote:Damn you all need a lesson in Racial Privilege 101. This typically manifests as white privilege, but in this case most anyone (well, men) who doesn't "resemble" the ethnicity of the Tsarnaev's (or Middle Eastern men, given the country's continued overanxiety towards such racial descent) is more likely to be targeted by paranoid citizens who assume anyone that fits that narrow, prejudiced visual bill is a prospective terrorist, regardless of their actual actions.
He looks like a middle eastern carrying around a cooking pot that a few other middle eastern looking kids just did a month ago. That's justified paranoia and he's stupid for not considering that factor. As a white guy, you don't see me carrying my airsoft rifle to any place after a mass shooting (Aurora/Sandyhook), because I'm smart enough to realize, that after such a major incident, such flags will exist. Unfortunately if a crime is commited by my twin brother, and he's caught, I'm still going to be looked at as a potential criminal. THATS HUMAN NATURE.
FrozNlite Wrote:For example, if I was walking around with the same pressurized cooker pot, the chances of someone calling the FBI on me would be slim to none. In fact, with families visiting for Mother's Day this weekend, I'd bet TONS of people around the country, from all races and walks of life, were transporting pressurized cooker pots filled with wonderful food to share with their families. So why weren't they stopped?
And guess what, if you were to commit an act of terrorism, people aren't going to think every homosexual on the east coast is a monster, but they will keep the profile of you in their head to look for those similarities to avoid being in that situation. In fact at that point pressurized cookers would be probably banned at that point as it's a second instance. But that's besides the point.
FrozNlite Wrote:Because they weren't of Eastern European/Middle Eastern descent. Because they weren't walking alone, like Oukaz. And because - and here's the kicker - they weren't 18-24, the same age range of students as the Tsarnaevs. Because Oukaz simply embodied these three physical and behavioral characteristics at this time, he was stopped and questioned. But none of them merit such a response.
I was really hoping it wouldn't be a muslim because I would figure something like this would happen. "OMG HE GOT CALLED OUT FOR BEING AN ARAB WITH A PRESSURE COOKER AND DEY ALL RACIST". If it was a russian guy, with no other reason than "f`uck it", then it be seen as a general threat. But you add in this muslim formula, all of a sudden it's another stacked incident on top of it.
FrozNlite Wrote:It also bothers me a lot of you say you'd stop anyone carrying a similar pot who looked "shady" with it, or "without a certain reason you can see." Cooker Pots 101: they typically have lids on them to like PROTECT THE RICE, so how are you going to tell from a distance what is a "certain reason" or not? Are you just going to call the cops on anyone skulking around with a pot? Because I'm sure even if I made it look like I was surreptitiously creeping with one, I wouldn't be stopped. And the argument doesn't even work in this case, because Oukaz was actually using it to make rice to actually serve his friends.
Anyone but a white guy because they tend to do mass shootings rather than bombs. If he's with a family, I don't see a reason why not. Here's the problem with your argument teenagers in general are seen as troublemakers. I have had my share of false police calls for being out after dark for alledged drug dealing, and/or attempted vandlism/theft. Did I cry out "OMG, PREJUDICE AGAINST ME BECAUSE IM A TEENAGER", no I understood the conclusion and went about my business. JUST LIKE THIS KID DID.
FrozNlite Wrote:Plus he's a student - he's a smart guy. Where in the article does it state he was shadily transporting this cooker? By the look and logic of the situation, Oukaz was probably walking quite normally with the pot as he was getting ready for dinner with his friends. So please explain to me how in this situation you could have determined he was carrying it around "without a certain reason you can see."
The "certain reason" you all claim to see is that he's a Middle Eastern student, you racist pimentos.
If he was a high school senior-college sophmore, walking around with a gray pot down the street, by himself, I'd call someone. All I see is a giant gray object he's holding and I assume it's a pressurized cooker. Should we ban all of them from big events? Definitely, you know what a racist would say? Ban all the middle easterns.

