2013-03-11, 06:54 AM
Kalovale Wrote:I don't seem to grasp how those are intrinsic values if they serve to elevate other values (punctuality, respect, responsibility, etc). I'm not certain how nuanced Swerve wants to get here, but by any definition, however superficial, "instrinsic" has an element of internality, self-containedness to speak. So the question can be more accessibly stated as: If the thing(s) that education is good for is/are no longer desirable (skills for employment, skills for life, facts, sociability, etc), are there still any values to education (modern education in particular, even though I don't quite see the distinction)?
A philosophical definition of the term "intrinsic value" refers to the Kantian idea of "an end in itself". An end is in itself when you respond "Just because." when someone asks you "Why?"/"For what purpose?" Considering that this was posted in Speakeasy, I don't think this kind of conversation is warranted, however. I'm just throwing it out there.
I think you're taking it way too deep.
Very very few things have "intrinsic value" the way you define it - grand things like "life" or vague concepts like "happiness", maybe.
Just about everything else only has "utilitarian value" in that it contributes to those.
I take this to be merely Swerve's periodic "college is a waste of time and money" topic.

