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The University of Colorado tells women to use bodily fluids to hold off rapists
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SaptaZapta Wrote:So many words, so few facts.

Let the University of Colorado present the following numbers:

1) How many cases of rape or attempted rape have occurred on campus in the past, say, 20 years?
2) In how many such cases was rape averted by the intended victim carrying a gun?
3) In how many such cases was the victim able to avoid being raped through other means?
4) In how many such cases was resistance impossible due to the assailant having a gun?
5) How many gun-related accidental injuries or deaths have occurred on campus during this time? (This includes both cases of people being careless with their guns, and people shooting intentionally at an innocent person, suspecting them of ill intent)

Once we have these numbers, we can discuss a little more rationally whether allowing guns on campus is a good or bad thing.

BTW, I would also include cases of robbery and other forms of assault a person might want to protect themselves against.

Also, is tear gas ("Mace") considered a firearm? If so, why? And if not, why aren't the women encouraged to carry that instead of a gun? (Or a taser, as mentioned above).

I actually just took a level 2 concealed weaponry class last Sunday (7 hours and boring as pomegranate, by the way), so I can actually answer that! Firearm only applies to what you typically think of as guns, but concealed "deadly" weapons include knives, brass knuckles, guns, anything designed specifically for doing fatal or permanent injury. Mace and taser do not fall under that category, at least not in this state, don't know about other states.

Razmos Wrote:That's funny, because I said that accepting and submitting to the rape is an extreme reaction. why do you consider passive resistance as letting yourself get raped?

Just because you have guns doesn't mean they are the magical solution to all problems.
You aren't considering a lot of things here. you are seeing this as simple "I'm being raped, i'll shoot my attacker" without considering the aftereffects or possibilites of what might happen.

What if you pulled the gun, shot, and MISSED? do you think that you will get out of the situation alive if the attacker knows their life is at risk?

Unless you are using a single action revolver, you get more than one conseq shot, you know. And if you use a lower caliber weapon, it not only probably won't kill them unless you are a VERY good shot (yet will still stop them), it also won't penetrate them and hit someone behind them. Hitting someone with a weapon at under 10 feet (which is now the standard that the FBI trains at, by the way, since almost all gunfights occur at that range), is incredibly easy. Further than that, and you have time to get away or get behind something/call for help. Closer, and he's dead, and he will hesitate to get closer unless he's a desperate drug addict. I saw a stat this morning on how many times a gun is drawn in ratio with how many times it is actually shot in cases like this, and it's pretty damn low; just the threat is enough to scare people away.
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The University of Colorado tells women to use bodily fluids to hold off rapists - by Flonne - 2013-02-20, 11:26 AM

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