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[MENTION=535]JoeTang[/MENTION] so Thunder Breaker's primary damage output is just 3rd job skills?

Ascend + Thunder does theoretically more damage, but it can be used on very few monsters. You would need to pin something into a corner for it to be effective. I've heard certain bosses became unrushable as well. For most practical situations, a Thunder Breaker would be using Typhoon and Thunderclap on any number of targets, or Annihilate + Thunderclap on a single target if they want to maintain higher defense ignore, which is less and less relevant the more ignore you have from gear (though this will depend on what the new defense ignore formula is, I still don't know).