2008-12-12, 04:40 PM
Kaasoljoyyx Wrote:Again, it's not equal situation -_-1. Offcourse I'm talking about single target bossing here, when I'm talking about horntail... So no AoE damage here... Mages die in 1 hit at HT when they use their Ultimates
From that logic, i can say archmages outdamage everyone at training because we hit all the monsters at once, while other classes waste time getting to the next monster.
Also funny how you give a bish to the NL party and not one to bucanneers to increase their dps.
You gotta create "as equal situations" as possible. Otherwise everything is just situational.
2. Find me a 1xDK/1xBM/4xNL party that can survive HT without being healed 100% of the time without the DK dieing... That party is so dependant on HB... If the DK dies or disconnects, BAM! Whole party dies instantly... It's just a no go area...
Dusk Wrote:No, it's not. Your thread is a vast approximation, ignores minimum damage (a huge deal, as I've stated multiple times), and uses experimental numbers for Demolition attack speed (faster than any other approximation I've seen, btw). Using an estimated 1.9s attack speed, I'm getting Bucs to come up around just as powerful as BMs and Heroes ...when Transformed. The actual speed could be slower or slightly faster.1. Well I used several video's of Buc's with Wind Booster on, and it's pretty accurace, so sow me a video that proves me wrong then....
Assuming 1.9s for Demolition is not completely off, BMs, NLs with SE, Corsairs and Heroes all surpass Buccaneers by far at Horntail. Dark Knights are competitive in terms of DPS at other locations where Berserk can be used. NLs without SE and Marksmen (more so when they get 199k Snipe, but even now) are also competitive with Buccaneers.
On the other hand, Buccaneers outdamage every other class at single-target damage with SE when monsters are stunnable. Stunning is that important.
2. Corsairs at HT? The cooldown of Battleship is terrible....
3. Dark Knights and Bereserk at HT? Huh? (Yes I was talking about HT, in case you hadn't noticed, please read more carefully).
4. Buccanneers -DO- outdamage the traditional party at HT, same as Luchbox Hero's outdamage the traditional party system, people just don't realize that... or don't want to leave their NL fanboy fantasy behind...
5. The problem with MM increased snipe is called Onyx Apples... The damage is stuck at 199k without or with onyx apples... Only at lower (non onyx apple) attack ranges MM's can keep up with BM's, but when Onyx Apples come into the situation, BM's overpower MM's by FAR, and it becomes even more the higher the level they (both) get. Unless Nexon decides to put the damage cap at 500k offcourse...
6. Yes, Stun Mastery + Buccaneers overpower everyone, I'll add THAT to the DPM thread when I have time, but a rough estimate: Demolition's power will almost double...