Captain Planet Mafia Discussion Thread.

That still depends on what's going on. I mean, I'd be inclined to say it's ridiculous but if you're going to get lynched anyway and there's almost no time left before the vote closes there's only that left and by right any person playing in a mafia game should know better than to take a roleclaim at face value. If at anything Corn is not getting lynched most likely because he still looks like he's on the town's side and he may be the person fighting against pollution who's not on the planet's side for all we know.

Really, it's just that the climate of this discussion is getting snappy for something that is a dubious strategy to begin with. My only real problem with it is if people just follow the roleclaimer with no thought to pay attention to other details which seems to be what's happening here.

I agree completely. That's exactly my problem as well.

I can agree with a roleclaim if it's the last second, but it was like six hours into the day. The game had barely been started, a couple of votes went towards him, and immediately, "I'M THE DOCTOR DON'T LYNCH ME!" Come on, really? That's your only way to talk yourself out of a Day 1 Lynch? Come on.

I admit there is a bit too much meta-gaming that goes on during SP mafia games. Certain players have taken on certain roles in mafia games and the regulars always expect the same thing from that player and believe them.

Like, Corn is the most famous role-claimer ever, except for one mafia game in which his role actually forbidden him from roleclaiming he has basically role-claimed on day 1 of every mafia game we have had.

Also, for a while the mafia or the neutral for the game would target a certain player because of how good they were at the game. DualReaver, MasPan, myself and a few others have been the victim of such treatment.

I wish it wasn't that way and each mafia could be something new and different, but. -shurg-

Maybe said players should be trying to play differently once in a while, at least when it comes to things that cause huge game changers like this.

I have no problem with how MasPan was playing. I'll admit, I considered trying to kill him more than once simply based upon his clear skill, but there's a difference between that and not even trying to play and roleclaiming almost immediately. Part of the appeal I had in mafia originally was the point of convincing people to do things they shouldn't, and trying to talk yourself out of things. I haven't really seen much of the latter, and really there wasn't much of the former either. I get that there's going to be deductive reasoning, but that's all that's being used for the most part. Words are almost never trusted unless they are completely proven, which defeats the point of half the game. I don't think everyone should be treating everyone else like an enemy at all times. There's a reason there's more Townies than Mafia. There's a large margin of error in the town's favor, but it's often used incorrectly in my opinion. There should be room for trusting at least slightly.

The way it seems to be to me is: "If you have a good role, you better inject it into your messages starting Day 2 or else you are bad, regardless of if you are or not." You should be able to keep your role completely hidden until it's absolutely necessary to show it, but if you do that, you're a liar and are going to be lynched for trying to roleclaim what you are.