GOKU VS SUPERMAN

Are you serious. When superman says "I need to get to the sun" the next thing goku says in that video is something along the lines of "Oh my, he's using the sun to gain power".

prior to knocking superman into the sun,

Well, there you go.

Having never watched GT, that can't be possible.

Well, you're confusing it for something, because Goku used a lot more than just Kamehameha, Kaiouken and Spirit Bombs to fight with.

Ok, I could have sworn he did it twice in the anime. I'm not going to check though. It might happen only once in the manga, I guess.

Regardless, this is the ONE time he actually thinks it through and works out his opponents weakness, and even then he royally pineapples it up.

It was twice in the Team Four Star's Dragon Ball Z Abridged series, if you watched that. I've recently watched through the Japanese version of the anime and he only did it once.

No. He could have made a proper spirit bomb before he fought vegeta. Or NOT STOOD RIGHT IN THE OPEN when he tried to charge one in the middle of the fight.

Uh, what? There's nothing that says the Spirit Bomb can be held indefinitely. You should know Goku. He doesn't go in from the start and use the ultimate technique and hope and pray it one-hit kills the guy. He wants to see what the guy can really do and test his own limits.

Hurdurdur. So, what you're saying is Goku DOES pick fights with people who are virtually invincible and stronger than him, JUST like Superman? Well ok then.

That wasn't really an issue of, "Oh, hey! You're strong! Let's fight!" It was more of an issue of, "OH, DEAR GOD! MY FRIENDS AND SON ARE GETTING SLAUGHTERED! The fate of the entire universe is at stake! I must do something to stop him!"

What the pineapple? Then why was he fighting him? To lose to him? You're just making Goku look even more retarded. Not to mention he fully healed cell after fighting him with a senzu bean, you going to tell me that was a good strategy too?

He fought him because... that's Goku. He loves to test his own abilities - to push himself beyond the limits of his own self. He loves to fight enemies stronger than himself, to see what he is fully capable of and how he can improve. Plus, Cell wanted to fight Goku. Cell's whole goal was to defeat Goku in a match. Goku gave Cell the Senzu Bean more as a taunt than anything. He knew that his son would obliterate the hell out of Cell. Goku wanted Cell and Gohan to both go at it at their best, or otherwise, Gohan may not have gotten the push he needed to ascend.

Who wouldn't even have been revived if goku wasn't a dumbass.

What do you mean? Vegeta was going to kill innocent people. Goku's choice was to either let everyone on Earth get slaughtered out of Vegeta's blind rage or fight him, face to face. Either way, the juice required to revive Buu would've been collected in the end.

He couldn't hold Super saiyan 3 in his alive body. Goku was being a moron again. If he COULD have used super saiyan 3 to beat him, he wouldn't have failed at using super saiyan 3 to beat him. HE didn't want Vegeta to get some of the glory, you're just making pomegranate up. HE needed the time to attempt to build power, which HE COULD NOT DO.

Vegeta and then good buu fought kid buu to stall him while Goku attempted to build up power/ make the universal spirit bomb. And even then, it took a dues ex machina to give him the strength to hit buu with the spirit bomb.
You seriously need to rewatch the ending of that fight if you think that's even remotely how it went down.

I'm making shit up? Yeah, okay. Go watch the fight on the planet of the Kais again. When Goku steps back, he says something along the lines of, "Yeah, I could've finished him off at the beginning, but I wanted you to have a try," when speaking to Vegeta. Then Goku says he has a plan and needs time to gather the energy, so he asks Vegeta to try and hold off Buu. Unfortunately, Goku wasn't able to gather the energy in the end, as his power was too drained from Super Saiyan 3. Then they both pretty much give up, then come up with the plan of the Spirit Bomb and whatnot. Then, Fat Buu steps in and fights Kid Buu and... Mr. Satan stands there like a moron, taunting Kid Buu. 20 episodes later, Mr. Satan gets Earthlings to listen to the pleas of everyone putting their hands up in the air, so the energy is collected and used. Unfortunately, Goku's strength is too diminished and Kid Buu starts pushing the gigantic ball back. The Namekians remind King Kai / Vegeta that there's still a wish remaining and that Porunga was getting pissy over waiting, then they have Porunga restore Goku's energy, allowing him to push the ball back at Kid Buu, destroying the existence of the evil half of Buu.

Doesn't matter. He thought he had a strategy, and, as you've pointed out, just like all of gokus other strategies, it FAILED.

It's a plot device called "suspense."

Which again, was all vegetas idea, not Gokus.

I never said it was.

Yes, he's an incredible fighter. Thats why he was able to last so long and actually force a being, who by the very definition is invincible, unconscious. You take that as a bad showing of his fighting skills? Then you're a fool.

Did you really watch that? Because that wasn't really anything. It was a bunch of hooplah. The mere fact that the Power Pole was even in the video was dumb. And the way it worked on Superman? Not even. Superman doesn't get affected by magic infused in a weapon/Human. He's affected by magic such as spells/curses used on him.

All I got from this is that you're pissed that Goku lost an unwinnable battle and trying to vaguely make things up to somehow suggest he should won.

Not even. I've said many times in the past Superman would absolutely destroy Goku with relative ease. I know Superman's capabilities. I've not once thought it could go the other way.