Best ways to trade highly expensive items for mesos/NX

i find collateral annoying, especially since my guildies usually get their collat stolen, i usually try to gain their trust and have the other guy go first. otherwise use items with a known meso value (say scrolls)

i don't use paypal, but from what it seems, you can pretty much 100% chargeback if you want. and well, official middlemen involves you going to "sites" to look for their services.

and eww man, your thread got me suspended for a day