KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes

@KhainiWest; Familiars are permanent. Of course you're collecting meaningless crap, none of this stuff actually means anything, it's a game. The meaning isn't in what little value the game puts into them, it's what the people who like doing them put in them. Look at @Bomber;, he's collected 300 familiars, and what for? He likes it. It's not meaningless to him.

Do you want to cast a poll to see how much people like doing these activities? Just becase I like bug collecting doesn't mean that's a legitimate reason to stick it as a popular hobby and assume that's a method a player will suddenly have fun doing. Not everyone simply likes collecting, I don't, yet most women that play maplestory like to collect chairs. Can't do that without bank. You can't even omok without money, I bet you didn't know that.

You'll most likely get scammed, yes, but then again, and I completely overlooked this, do you really have to sell to randoms? What about friends who might need the item, you don't even need a permit then? Most scrolls are less than 3m, yes, but that's more than enough to buy pots, which is apparently a big issue. The fact that they're not popular doesn't make them unsellable. People still play the classes that need the unpopular scrolls, and if not that, people still want cheap scrolls to scroll their android hearts with.

My god dude. This is getting old. I could come up with a million and one methods how tedious stupid sh`it can make money, such as training at pig beach until level 150, the point is it's not efficient and you're throwing in factors that are ridiculous. Most of my friends wouldn't mind donating NX to me, but I can't factor that in as a gurrantee. It's considered struggling, assuming you can even make friends considering how every other player in GMS is honing on how to profit off of you.

Also as for the hearts, you do realize there are scrolls for 300k that people seek, specifically two hand for axe? What you want me to spend hours hunting those scrolls so I have potions? Do you know the drop rate on them, not in my favor for sure.

Again, yes, it's easy to just throw money at the game, but, and I say this again, it's not the only way. The fact that there's an easy way doesn't invalidate all other possibilities. These aren't excuses, they're suggestions if you don't want to go the way of paying to win. Sure, I can go out and buy a cake, but that doesn't mean you can't buy a mix and make one, doesn't mean you can't make one from scratch. But hey, why even do that, it's easier just to buy the cake.

No, see this is why your suggestions are stupid. Your suggestion is not to make a cake from scratch, your suggestion is to go open a farm, raise hens, lay eggs and make the materials in order to make the cake mix. You do realize back in the golden days you had to get up at 3am just so you could eat breakfast at 8am? You're over simplyfing the amount of time you'd have to invest just to get at a level to fight beyond HT. And if you aren't playing or even want to boss why bother upgrading at all? Just get to 120 and chill at henesys.

You don't have to get a primal essence to make it big. Saving does work, you know. Sure, this one individual item isn't nearly as good as a primal essence, but ten of them are better than one, and a hundred of them are better than ten.

-facepalm- You're overlooking the fact nexon makes it insanely difficult to deter you for taking the time to do it. Saving what? Your profits? I don't know about windia but in most markets to even step foot in the free market you better have a minimum of 50m (scania/bera/khaini are typical markets I browse) And that's for overpriced garbage that people want. Maple weapons are probably the only thing worth buying before level 110.

See the thing is, I did work for everything that I accomplished. I spent the time on a chief bandit, at florina beach hunting for str 60% scrolls, for profit and for my use. I spent the time doing pq's for scrolls, now people don't even hunt for them. It's not worth the amount of effort to do what a few dollars can do for you. People will be THROWING meso at you for 10 dollars in NX. It's not just the easiest way, it's the most reasonable way. You'd spend well more than $10 in freetime, and for the most slow growth rate in any game in existance I'd argue.

Bosses don't even drop the specific mastery books anymore, and the lower bosses ones don't even drop Mystery Mastery books at a decent rate. I would say the only reasonable way to get the books you need would be to buy them, but, outside of that there are currently 3 quests that are readily available after 4th job which give you a better chance at getting a book you need. I wouldn't even consider hunting them, since there are 200+ books can come out of it, close to 300 after the release of Angelic Burster, it's a really terrible system. kMS came up with this item that lets you fuse two crappy books into a mystery mastery book, but that's something you get from events. Long gone are the days when bossing was required to upgrade your skills.

Oh so buying from botters, better strat, I understand. Doesn't change the fact you need disposable income.

The other aspects of the game aren't as hard as you make them seem. You're not gonna fail a PQ because you don't have hundreds of dollars worth of equips. If me, Danny, and Joe can finish OPQ on some unfunded characters in kMS with no % gear, I don't think anyone else would have much of a problem. Even training, outside of party play, and even with party play really, you can do without having super godly equips. The game is just that easy now.

No one is saying you have to spend 5 grand to be able to play maplestory. You have to spend to upgrade your character to a reasonable/fair level of accomplishment. There's no feeling of accomplishment wasting 16 hours just to make 10 million mesos that gives you no flexibility for upgrades, ffs some maple weapons are worth more than that. You're protecting an oversimplified idea that people should stop complaining about the NX dependency because if you waste enough time you can "get by".

My options are unrealistic if you want to be competitive and boss and all that, but in the end, having all that percent stat and crap isn't an absolute necessity to play this game, but all everyone thinks about having the easiest possible time at bossing.

People think about efficiency. They want quick routes so they can flip for profit. But we're not discussing that, we're discussing how you can ever become someone who can boss efficiently without caving to nexon's unreasonable terms.

These bosses are the ones that require the most monetary investment, and they give the most profit. There are only two of them. Outside of these two bosses, and eventually CPB and Magnus, you can get by without spending so much on the game, assuming a group setting, which while laughable, is still something people do.

In summary, I would really only say there are two bosses that you really need to fund yourself for, unless you want to solo the others, which I understand, and those two happen to have the most potential profit and you can really get by in the game well enough without needing to do them just to make ends meet.

Define so much, because I gurrantee if you want to challenge any boss higher than targa you will have to invest something, even if that means an incredible amount of time to offset your "free pass". Which isn't reasonable, and is ludicrous you would take such a stance.

[MENTION=4598]MoldyBunny[/MENTION]; Can you stop sucking fear's ass for a second and actually comment on why you disagree rather than hiding as per usual.