KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes
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Aflac Wrote:We've seen what happens when the damage cap gets raised from 100k to 200k and now to 1m. Zakum used to be the ultimate boss. Now everyone and their mother can solo it. Pink Bean was undefeatable for months. Now half my buddy list can solo PB like it's no problem. I understand that a game needs to grow this way in order to progress to more upper-end content, but how many random maplers can say they're able to use this content? When a newbie to Maple asks how to make mesos from scratch, or how people spend billions and billions of mesos to buy gear and they're having trouble just paying for potions, what do you say? Sell NX? Spend months upon months doing nothing but merching to maybe make enough mesos to simply buy a clean empress cane? It's plain that an increasingly large number of players are already dissatisfied with how far down the road of pay-to-win maple has become. I understand that a game needs to grow this way in order to progress, but it's no good to simply stretch the extremes of capability without increasing the median.

Do you start off playing a game, an MMO to be specific, aiming to definitely without a doubt have the best equips? Not everyone goes for Empress equips, not everyone perfectly scrolls them, and not everyone cubes them for boss damage out the ass. Unless you're actually planning on doing the big bosses, it's not necessary, and even then, yes, it shouldn't be necessary and it's stupid that it is, but it's not as if you have to kill Empress just to make ends meet. Pots aren't so expensive that unless you boss you won't be able to do anything in the game, ever.

Pay to win is a problem, yes, for bossing, but there are other aspects of the game besides bossing, too, those that don't require you to spend billions and billions and billions on equips. I honestly can't say I care much for those, but many people do and for some, doing those things is more important than killing whatever impossible boss we have right now. And on the flip side, should the best equips in the game be so cheap that you can start playing and buy ten of them with money to spare?

Bomber Wrote:Those "few" people are all it takes to get items that shouldn't have normally been obtained without them being there.
Those "few" people have already made a big impact on this game. Angelic burster just makes that even easier.

I'm not exactly sure how to respond to this. There's almost always been those "few" people. It's the same "few" people, and they're doing the same thing they were doing before. What difference does it make what they're doing it on?

Magnus seems impossible without Angelic Burster, I agree, but we spent months thinking Empress was impossible too, and now people kill her daily. It might be super optimistic of me to think this, but I'm sure we'll find a way.
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KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Fiel - 2012-11-12, 12:49 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by hilced7 - 2012-11-12, 01:01 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Bribery - 2012-11-12, 01:02 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Grey - 2012-11-12, 01:05 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by fodjgngf - 2012-11-12, 01:07 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by rattown - 2012-11-12, 01:22 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Arrol - 2012-11-12, 01:24 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by ResistGreen - 2012-11-12, 01:27 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by fodjgngf - 2012-11-12, 01:41 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by IllegallySane - 2012-11-12, 01:42 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by fodjgngf - 2012-11-12, 01:44 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Arrol - 2012-11-12, 01:45 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by MuscleWizard - 2012-11-12, 01:46 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by IllegallySane - 2012-11-12, 01:47 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by fodjgngf - 2012-11-12, 01:49 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Grey - 2012-11-12, 01:58 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Aflac - 2012-11-12, 02:34 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Schrono - 2012-11-12, 02:40 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Zelkova - 2012-11-12, 02:40 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Grey - 2012-11-12, 02:47 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Aflac - 2012-11-12, 03:01 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Grey - 2012-11-12, 03:19 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Takebacker - 2012-11-12, 03:40 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Aflac - 2012-11-12, 03:45 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Takebacker - 2012-11-12, 03:51 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Bomber - 2012-11-12, 03:53 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Nion - 2012-11-12, 04:06 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Dark Link - 2012-11-12, 04:08 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Jon - 2012-11-12, 04:12 PM
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KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by MorbidMagus - 2012-11-12, 04:33 PM
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KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Schrono - 2012-11-12, 04:56 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Takebacker - 2012-11-12, 04:59 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by JoeTang - 2012-11-12, 05:13 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Zerard - 2012-11-12, 05:21 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Grey - 2012-11-12, 05:21 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Dark Link - 2012-11-12, 05:31 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Schrono - 2012-11-12, 05:36 PM
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KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Dark Link - 2012-11-12, 06:48 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Bomber - 2012-11-12, 06:54 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by MorbidMagus - 2012-11-12, 06:57 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Arrol - 2012-11-12, 06:58 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by VerrKol - 2012-11-12, 07:20 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Dark Link - 2012-11-12, 07:30 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by MorbidMagus - 2012-11-12, 07:35 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Takebacker - 2012-11-12, 07:37 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by MorbidMagus - 2012-11-12, 07:49 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by IllegallySane - 2012-11-12, 07:53 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Polantaris - 2012-11-12, 08:02 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by mithi9 - 2012-11-12, 08:18 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Dudewitbow - 2012-11-12, 08:23 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Arrol - 2012-11-12, 08:25 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Grey - 2012-11-12, 08:43 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by fodjgngf - 2012-11-12, 08:44 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Arrol - 2012-11-12, 08:45 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by VerrKol - 2012-11-12, 08:47 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Grey - 2012-11-12, 08:51 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by MorbidMagus - 2012-11-12, 09:31 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by IllegallySane - 2012-11-12, 09:40 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Polantaris - 2012-11-12, 09:46 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Dark Link - 2012-11-12, 09:49 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Grey - 2012-11-12, 10:04 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Takebacker - 2012-11-12, 10:13 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by MorbidMagus - 2012-11-12, 10:26 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by IllegallySane - 2012-11-12, 10:40 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Dark Link - 2012-11-12, 10:45 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by IllegallySane - 2012-11-12, 11:12 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Polantaris - 2012-11-13, 12:30 AM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by iRyahn - 2012-11-13, 12:38 AM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Arrol - 2012-11-13, 12:54 AM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Zerard - 2012-11-13, 01:01 AM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Grey - 2012-11-13, 01:18 AM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by JoeTang - 2012-11-13, 02:46 AM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by KhainiWest - 2012-11-13, 12:06 PM
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KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Aflac - 2012-11-13, 02:03 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Grey - 2012-11-13, 02:35 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by KhainiWest - 2012-11-13, 03:07 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by SaptaZapta - 2012-11-13, 03:25 PM
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KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by MorbidMagus - 2012-11-13, 03:49 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Grey - 2012-11-13, 04:15 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Bomber - 2012-11-13, 04:27 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Curtiss - 2012-11-13, 04:37 PM
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KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by ChosenFruit - 2012-11-13, 05:01 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Dark Link - 2012-11-13, 05:04 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Bomber - 2012-11-13, 05:23 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by KhainiWest - 2012-11-13, 05:29 PM
KMST 1.2.455 - Moar changes - by Bomber - 2012-11-13, 05:29 PM
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