2012-09-06, 05:15 PM
Rayquaza2233 Wrote:There is a very simple flowchart for whether a mage should get Chalice or Tear.
Do their skills scale damage off mana? If yes Tear, if no Chalice
Didn't know Karthus scaled off mana.
Jamesie Wrote:-All (or almost all of them, I can't think of one off the top of my head right now other than maybe Karthus) AP Casters are combo mages. Ryze is dissimilar from all casters in two ways: scales harder off mana (only caster in the game that does?) and is a sustained damage mage rather than a burst caster.
-Annie spams her Q as well, so does Diana, so does Orianna, so does Ahri, so does Cassiopeia, so does LeBlanc, so does Vlad, so does Gragas, so does Rumble, so does Zyra, so does Ziggs, so does Karthus. And those are casters that spam their Qs. Just because they spam a specific key doesn't mean they're related to Ryze.
-I can see similarities to Orianna in the sense they revolve around placement of a non-AI controlled "pet."
In short: Syndra and Ryze have virtually nothing in common short of being casters, and even then they're still not that related.
[MENTION=789]Rayquaza2233[/MENTION] has the idea when to buy a Tear and Chalice (which is almost always a Chalice). As mentioned earlier, there really is never a reason to buy Tear as a caster unless you're Ryze.
-how many of them absolutely have to do their combo a certain way? Cassio is QEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE or WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE which is kinda a combo. The thing is that she NEEDS to have her poison down to do something. Like Ryze with his Q's for reducing cooldowns, and Ori for having her ball in a certain place, and Zyra for having her seeds. In contrast, Malz hits 2 keys for an effective combo: W and R. Fiddlesticks hits 2 keys and that's it: Q and W. Morgana hits QW, maybe RQW. Compare those to a Ryze QWQEQ or a QWQEQRQWQEQ combo, or a Syndra QQWQER or QQWQRE combo (single target burst vs. teamfight utility), and the difference is pretty obvious.
-Low cooldown spam. You know perfectly well what I meant. Her Q is on a 4 second base cooldown at all ranks, most of those champs those champs are at a value quite a bit higher.
-k
Basically no. The similarity is needing to spam one spell throughout the combo in order to keep it going or make it effective. They need it for different reasons but the result and the feel is the same. Have you played Syndra? If you haven't, I don't really know where you're basing ANYTHING you're saying. If you do not have 3 Q's on the field when you're ulting then you are almost certainly wasting your ult. Of course, it's more or less impossible to get 3 Q's up and positioned correctly against a target in a teamfight without them being able to simply move out of the way unless you use your slow and/or stun.