help finding old 4th job lore.

kind of a weird Q/A, but it's not really a discussion so here.

i was wondering if southperry had the old lore about classes when they advanced to 4th job and did the respective skill quests, mainly interested in the beholder quests which revealed what the beholder actually was.

also interested for reading purposed of course. if it's not on southperry, anyone knows where i could find it? maplewikia proved useless.

kind of a weird Q/A, but it's not really a discussion so here.

i was wondering if southperry had the old lore about classes when they advanced to 4th job and did the respective skill quests, mainly interested in the beholder quests which revealed what the beholder actually was.

also interested for reading purposed of course. if it's not on southperry, anyone knows where i could find it? maplewikia proved useless.

Isn't beholder a dark spirit/soul that to turn good forgot all it's memories then regained part of them (which are the skills it used to make you stronger)?

Something like that.

I can't remember much about it aside from being pretty taken aback at how evil the quests presented Beholder to be. Maybe if someone has an older version of MapleStory (I know v55 is fairly common) they'd be able to extract the quest info from the files? I've been wanting to find the old Dark Knight quests too, I loved the backstory they gave. It's such a shame they took all of that out.

I would actually love to read the lore behind the skills again (bowmasters, obviously, but the others as well), I'd sadly forgotten them all.

I remember the quests behind the Corsair skills being pretty neat.

I would actually love to read the lore behind the skills again (bowmasters, obviously, but the others as well), I'd sadly forgotten them all.

I remember the quests behind the Corsair skills being pretty neat.

Of all the skill quests, I enjoyed doing the Corsair ones the most. It was cool being sent to Spirit Vikings to learn how to use a Ship.

I clearly remember Isaac making a thread for this but I can't find it here or on Sleepywood.

I clearly remember Isaac making a thread for this but I can't find it here or on Sleepywood.

and there lies my problem .__.

Isn't beholder a dark spirit/soul that to turn good forgot all it's memories then regained part of them (which are the skills it used to make you stronger)?

Something like that.

I can't remember much about it aside from being pretty taken aback at how evil the quests presented Beholder to be. Maybe if someone has an older version of MapleStory (I know v55 is fairly common) they'd be able to extract the quest info from the files? I've been wanting to find the old Dark Knight quests too, I loved the backstory they gave. It's such a shame they took all of that out.

i still remember it pretty clearly, beholder was a person that was so evil, that they sealed and cleansed his soul to such a degree that it ended losing it's physical body, along with memories and everything else. doing the beholder quests allowed the beholder to regain some of his past memories which in turn made it more powerful. but you only did as much as to get the skills to level 25, because any more than that and there was a chance the beholder would regain too much knowledge/power and unseal himself.

of course, i want to read it once again because i'm kinda iffy on the wording, not to mention what the others have said.

yea, but asking someone to download v.55 and do the whole extraction process is kind of asking too much don't you think? especially since i know isaac (shame i never got to meet him) made so many maplelore posts that he might have it somewhere.

but i can't find it either ._.

yea, but asking someone to download v.55 and do the whole extraction process is kind of asking too much don't you think? especially since i know isaac (shame i never got to meet him) made so many maplelore posts that he might have it somewhere.

but i can't find it either ._.

I'll give it a try. I haven't used extraction programs in over a year but I'll see if I can get anything to work.

If I can figure it out I'll let you know.

I vaguely remember someone starting something like this a bit before Big Bang, in an attempt to preserve the lore.
I can't recall who it was, or how far the project went, or anything really.
(I do know Big Bang was long after Isaac stopped posting here, so it wasn't him)

Well, acev/ashrua documted Paladin quests.

Well, acev/ashrua documted Paladin quests.

Man reading some of this is making me so nostalgic. I remember that damn quest to kill a Jr. Balrog for a key, and as I recall it was broken when it came out and they didn't drop. Wasted a ton of mesos buying a Jr Balrog summoning sack to try and get a key because everyone had killed all of them for their 4th job quests already.

I would actually love to read the lore behind the skills again (bowmasters, obviously, but the others as well), I'd sadly forgotten them all.

I remember the quests behind the Corsair skills being pretty neat.

The person you're looking for? Flowsion. I remember him collecting these for use in FMS back in the day.

Apparently, I'm excceding some 2 MB bandwidth thing, so I can't seem to post em all at once (or even per quest for that matter), lol.

Phoenix:

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Concentrate Part 1:

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Concentrate Part 2:

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Hurricane (all I could find was a frapped video, so I had to screenshot those):

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[MENTION=7678]ShinkuDragon[/MENTION];

Dug around the files for a bit and managed to find the Beholder's Hex/Heal quest text, it's messy because it links to NPC IDs and I don't know which they're linking to. Decided to Google one of the IDs and MapleTip has some of the quests in it's database still - Harmonia's NPC has some of the Beholder quests, among other 4th job Warrior things I'm guessing the other 4th job NPC pages have the same for their respective classes.

Here's what I found:

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You are with an eccentric, evil man. The Dark Spirit? Humans called it the #r#q1321007##k (Beholder). Do you know whose spirit it is?
You don't know. That's the spirit of someone wicked and strong. Ah, don't worry. He was so wicked that his spirit was forced to be purified. Actually, he was purified so much that he lost all his memories and powers. Now he ends up with purity. He won't do you any harm. He will be helpful.
What do I mean? I told you. #r#q1321007##k used to have a strong power, which include healing power. If you make the power of spirit work properly, you can use it. Are you curious about this skill?

Yes > Go to see #b#p2041021##k, the clown standing in the #b#m220050300##k. He would know about #r#q1321007##k's history and more knowledge about this.

No > Hmm. If you aren't, that's fine. (these aren't worth noting, they're more or less all this exact text)

--

You got #t4031453#. This can make #q1321007#'s power work.
#q1321007# used to be very strong. You haven't awaken his power completely. When you want to make him more powerful, talk to me.
#b#t4031453##k has #b#o8170000##k. It's hard to get. Be careful.

The #r#q1321007##k? That is so unexpected! Do you know that he used to be really BAD. He still looks blue even after he was purified. Now, that's the evidence of evil!
We shouldn't persecute the spirit who got rid of all his memories. If you need his power, I'll help you. If you want to awaken his healing power,\r\nget me #b#t4031453##k

Yes > #b#o8170000##k may have #b#t4031453##k. He sets back #r#q1321007##k's time with his magic.
No > -

--

Would you like to awaken #q1321007#'s power? Actually it's hard to do, because I might restore his memory. To prevent this, I have to control #q1321007# with #b#t4000148##k. Would you like to awaken #q1321007#'s power by doing that?
Yes > Get me #b200 #t4000148##k. Then I can control #q1321007#'s power.
No > -

You gathered 200 #t4000148#! I can control #q1321007#'s power now.
I awakened part of the #q1321007#'s Power and yet, controlled it at the same time. If you want to awaken more of his power, talk to me.

No > It's not easy to get #b200#t4000148#, is it?

--

You gathered 500 #t4000148# 500. I'll awaken all of #q1321007#'s power now.
While unlocking all his power, I controlled all of his memories with the help of 500 Bridles of Binding. Though he's a dark spirit, he looks pure. Please take care of him!
No > If you don't get me #b500#t4000148##k, I won't awaken #q1321007#'s power.

#q1321007# used to be a bad man, but now he uses healing power. How exciting! Do you want to awaken #q1321007#'s power?
Yes > Then get me #b500 #t4000148##k! This will control\r\nthe #q1321007#'s power completely. His spiritual powers are so strong that lots of #t4000148# are required.
No > That's fine with me if you don't want to.

--

You came all the way to #m220050300#! Did you come to see #p2041023#'s magic? I'm willing to show......No? You are the one #p2081100# talked about! Can you show your spirit?
Yes > Ah, this is #q1321007#. He used to be bad. He looks cute without his memories...
Go to see#b#p2041023##k in #b#m220050300##k.

Long time no see. You need to have something extra even if you completed the 4th job advancement. What am I talking about? I'm asking you if you need magic to give you more power.
You seem to be puzzled. Don't worry. #r#q1321007##k, the spirit that is within you, will learn the magic skills, not you. It used to be a spirit of a wicked man, but it has since been purified and is a pure spirit now. You can awaken his power...
#q1321007# has power called #bblessing power#k. This magic will give more power to those who seek it. Are you curious? #q1321007#'s power will become your power. No harm in having it.
Yes > Then go to see the magician, #b#p2041023##k standing in #b#m220050300##k. He would know about the history of #r#q1321007##k.
No > Hmm.. If you don't want to, then that's fine. Take care of #q1321007#!

You've got the #t4031474#! This will help to awake\r\nthe #q1321007#'s power.
I changed the contract! I can use the blessing power that #q1321007# had. But that's not all...
#b#o8160000##k has #b#t4031474##k. Be careful! It's not easy to get.

You want to awaken #r#q1321007##k's power? It's quite hard.
#r#q1321007##k's power is certainly strong, so most of his power is bound with the contract of his spirit. If you want to use the power, bring the contract to me. You can use the power if you change it.
Yes > I'll tell you.#b#o8160000##k has #b#t4031474##k of #r#q1321007##k. I, the mighty magician Flo, can change the contract for you.
No > You don't want? I understand, contracts give me headaches too.

You got 200 #t4000134#. This will stimulate #q1321007#'s memories.
I awakened part of the #q1321007#'s Power. The power is not complete yet. Talk to me if you want to awaken more of his power.
No > It's tough to get 200 #b#t4000134##k, isn't it? Keep going!

--

How's #r#q1321007##k's power? Isn't it good? Do you think it's not strong enough for you yet? I, the mighty magician Flo, will help you out.
The memory of spirit is asleep according to the contract. The vestige, however, works for the spirit. He can't move his memory. But when you use magician #p2041023#'s power in the corridor of time, most of the memory will work. Though it's a shortcut, it still works.
When the memory unlocked, so will the power of the spirit. Do you want to unlock more of his power?

Get me #b200 #t4000134##k. This will shake the vestige of his memory and awaken his power. Why #t4000134#? That's because #t4000134# is related to the past of #q1321007#. I can't explain more than that. Now go and get them.
No > You don't like a shortcut? Odd...

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Do you want to awaken #r#q1321007##k's power more? If you restore his memory, his power will awaken.
Yes > If you want more power from the #q1321007#,\r\nget me #b500 #t4000134##k! That will do the trick of awakening Beholder's power. The object meant a lot to him in the past! You have to restore his memory!
No > Ok...you don't like this method?

You got 500#t4000134# . Good! I woke up the blessing power #q1321007# had.
Actually I can awaken his power, but it will be dangerous. If his memory's restored, I'll be punished by #p2081100#. I'll stop now. An excellent magician should know how far he can go...
Make good use of #r#q1321007##k's power.
No > If you can't have #b500 #t4000134##k, it's hard to restore #q1321007#'s memory.

Most of 'negative' text at the end is either declining to continue the quest or the end chat text. This is all I could find on Beholder, hopefully that's of some use! It was fun reading it again, even if the NPC IDs are messy.

[MENTION=7678]ShinkuDragon[/MENTION];

Dug around the files for a bit and managed to find the Beholder's Hex/Heal quest text, it's messy because it links to NPC IDs and I don't know which they're linking to. Decided to Google one of the IDs and MapleTip has some of the quests in it's database still - Harmonia's NPC has some of the Beholder quests, among other 4th job Warrior things I'm guessing the other 4th job NPC pages have the same for their respective classes.

Here's what I found:

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You are with an eccentric, evil man. The Dark Spirit? Humans called it the #r#q1321007##k (Beholder). Do you know whose spirit it is?
You don't know. That's the spirit of someone wicked and strong. Ah, don't worry. He was so wicked that his spirit was forced to be purified. Actually, he was purified so much that he lost all his memories and powers. Now he ends up with purity. He won't do you any harm. He will be helpful.
What do I mean? I told you. #r#q1321007##k used to have a strong power, which include healing power. If you make the power of spirit work properly, you can use it. Are you curious about this skill?

Yes > Go to see #b#p2041021##k, the clown standing in the #b#m220050300##k. He would know about #r#q1321007##k's history and more knowledge about this.

No > Hmm. If you aren't, that's fine. (these aren't worth noting, they're more or less all this exact text)

--

You got #t4031453#. This can make #q1321007#'s power work.
#q1321007# used to be very strong. You haven't awaken his power completely. When you want to make him more powerful, talk to me.
#b#t4031453##k has #b#o8170000##k. It's hard to get. Be careful.

The #r#q1321007##k? That is so unexpected! Do you know that he used to be really BAD. He still looks blue even after he was purified. Now, that's the evidence of evil!
We shouldn't persecute the spirit who got rid of all his memories. If you need his power, I'll help you. If you want to awaken his healing power,\r\nget me #b#t4031453##k

Yes > #b#o8170000##k may have #b#t4031453##k. He sets back #r#q1321007##k's time with his magic.
No > -

--

Would you like to awaken #q1321007#'s power? Actually it's hard to do, because I might restore his memory. To prevent this, I have to control #q1321007# with #b#t4000148##k. Would you like to awaken #q1321007#'s power by doing that?
Yes > Get me #b200 #t4000148##k. Then I can control #q1321007#'s power.
No > -

You gathered 200 #t4000148#! I can control #q1321007#'s power now.
I awakened part of the #q1321007#'s Power and yet, controlled it at the same time. If you want to awaken more of his power, talk to me.

No > It's not easy to get #b200#t4000148#, is it?

--

You gathered 500 #t4000148# 500. I'll awaken all of #q1321007#'s power now.
While unlocking all his power, I controlled all of his memories with the help of 500 Bridles of Binding. Though he's a dark spirit, he looks pure. Please take care of him!
No > If you don't get me #b500#t4000148##k, I won't awaken #q1321007#'s power.

#q1321007# used to be a bad man, but now he uses healing power. How exciting! Do you want to awaken #q1321007#'s power?
Yes > Then get me #b500 #t4000148##k! This will control\r\nthe #q1321007#'s power completely. His spiritual powers are so strong that lots of #t4000148# are required.
No > That's fine with me if you don't want to.

--

You came all the way to #m220050300#! Did you come to see #p2041023#'s magic? I'm willing to show......No? You are the one #p2081100# talked about! Can you show your spirit?
Yes > Ah, this is #q1321007#. He used to be bad. He looks cute without his memories...
Go to see#b#p2041023##k in #b#m220050300##k.

Long time no see. You need to have something extra even if you completed the 4th job advancement. What am I talking about? I'm asking you if you need magic to give you more power.
You seem to be puzzled. Don't worry. #r#q1321007##k, the spirit that is within you, will learn the magic skills, not you. It used to be a spirit of a wicked man, but it has since been purified and is a pure spirit now. You can awaken his power...
#q1321007# has power called #bblessing power#k. This magic will give more power to those who seek it. Are you curious? #q1321007#'s power will become your power. No harm in having it.
Yes > Then go to see the magician, #b#p2041023##k standing in #b#m220050300##k. He would know about the history of #r#q1321007##k.
No > Hmm.. If you don't want to, then that's fine. Take care of #q1321007#!

You've got the #t4031474#! This will help to awake\r\nthe #q1321007#'s power.
I changed the contract! I can use the blessing power that #q1321007# had. But that's not all...
#b#o8160000##k has #b#t4031474##k. Be careful! It's not easy to get.

You want to awaken #r#q1321007##k's power? It's quite hard.
#r#q1321007##k's power is certainly strong, so most of his power is bound with the contract of his spirit. If you want to use the power, bring the contract to me. You can use the power if you change it.
Yes > I'll tell you.#b#o8160000##k has #b#t4031474##k of #r#q1321007##k. I, the mighty magician Flo, can change the contract for you.
No > You don't want? I understand, contracts give me headaches too.

You got 200 #t4000134#. This will stimulate #q1321007#'s memories.
I awakened part of the #q1321007#'s Power. The power is not complete yet. Talk to me if you want to awaken more of his power.
No > It's tough to get 200 #b#t4000134##k, isn't it? Keep going!

--

How's #r#q1321007##k's power? Isn't it good? Do you think it's not strong enough for you yet? I, the mighty magician Flo, will help you out.
The memory of spirit is asleep according to the contract. The vestige, however, works for the spirit. He can't move his memory. But when you use magician #p2041023#'s power in the corridor of time, most of the memory will work. Though it's a shortcut, it still works.
When the memory unlocked, so will the power of the spirit. Do you want to unlock more of his power?

Get me #b200 #t4000134##k. This will shake the vestige of his memory and awaken his power. Why #t4000134#? That's because #t4000134# is related to the past of #q1321007#. I can't explain more than that. Now go and get them.
No > You don't like a shortcut? Odd...

--

Do you want to awaken #r#q1321007##k's power more? If you restore his memory, his power will awaken.
Yes > If you want more power from the #q1321007#,\r\nget me #b500 #t4000134##k! That will do the trick of awakening Beholder's power. The object meant a lot to him in the past! You have to restore his memory!
No > Ok...you don't like this method?

You got 500#t4000134# . Good! I woke up the blessing power #q1321007# had.
Actually I can awaken his power, but it will be dangerous. If his memory's restored, I'll be punished by #p2081100#. I'll stop now. An excellent magician should know how far he can go...
Make good use of #r#q1321007##k's power.
No > If you can't have #b500 #t4000134##k, it's hard to restore #q1321007#'s memory.

Most of 'negative' text at the end is either declining to continue the quest or the end chat text. This is all I could find on Beholder, hopefully that's of some use! It was fun reading it again, even if the NPC IDs are messy.

that's awesome, i remember most of this pretty well then! iirc:

1321007 = beholder
4000134 = viking sails
2041023 = Flo
220050300 = Ludibrium : Path of Time
4000148 = binding bridle
8170000 = thanatos
4031453 = Magical Array of the Spirit
4031474 = Soul Contract

used maplearchive to figure most of those (remembering them also helped, but just doublechecking heh)

you're awesome, think you could do me one last favor and find the texts that include berzerk? i don't think the rush quests are important, and these three are the main DrK skills, can't remember what tipped you to go fight balrog for the key

but in short:

harmonia tells you to see flo and mr bouffon, you talk to each and they make you hunt the soul contract and magical array from thanathos, then they make you hunt 200/500 viking sails and binding bridle to unlock more of his power.

It was pretty cool for buccaneers to have to kill pap to learn Time Leap. That was one of the best quests ever xD

And the concentrate quest T.T so fricken ridiculous if you didn't have the book. Took forever to get one that was cheap until CWKPQ came out.

that's awesome, i remember most of this pretty well then! iirc:

1321007 = beholder
4000134 = viking sails
2041023 = Flo
220050300 = Ludibrium : Path of Time
4000148 = binding bridle
8170000 = thanatos
4031453 = Magical Array of the Spirit
4031474 = Soul Contract

used maplearchive to figure most of those (remembering them also helped, but just doublechecking heh)

you're awesome, think you could do me one last favor and find the texts that include berzerk? i don't think the rush quests are important, and these three are the main DrK skills, can't remember what tipped you to go fight balrog for the key

but in short:

harmonia tells you to see flo and mr bouffon, you talk to each and they make you hunt the soul contract and magical array from thanathos, then they make you hunt 200/500 viking sails and binding bridle to unlock more of his power.

I found Rush by accident while looking for Berserk, so I may as well include that:

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Manji's Test
I obtained a book I can't read. It looks like it's written in a strange language. The writing is crude, almost like an animal wrote it...a kind of monster language. I wonder if #b#p1022002##k would know how to read it. Couldn't hurt to speak with him...
My hunch paid off. When I asked #b#p1022002##k about the book, he examined the language closer and came to a conclusion. He said the book is about the #bRush#k skill. He offered to translate, but he said that I must prove myself as one worthy to obtain such power--a true warrior in his eyes. I must eliminate #r200 #o9300087##k in #m910500100# located at the entrance of the Sanctuary, deep in Sleepywood. Manji saw that I was surprised by the high number and advised me to make a party with a few of like-minded companions to ensure victory. This is precisely what friends are for...\n\n#o9300087# #r#a61101##k
With a bit of help from my trusty weapon, I easily defeated the requisite number that #p1022002##k requested. As promised, he translated the book, and it revealed the famed skill known as Rush. I can't wait to try it out!

Fairly certain this is Berserk!:

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The Great Warrior, Sayram
Song of forgotten warrior
#b#p2040052##k of #b#m222020000##k says he has something to tell me...
#p2040052# talked about a warrior named #bSeram#k. He mentioned a singing shield which I can use to get information about the old techniques of Sayram. Then he told me to go see #b#p2081000##k at #bLeafle#k to find more information about him...Let's go see #b#m240000000#'s Chief#k with the #b#t4161019##k that \n#p2040052# gave me. Should be an amusing trip at the least. A singing shield? I wonder... \n\n#i4161019##t4161019# #b#c4161019# / 1#k
Tatamo seems to know about Sayram, however, the singing shield is another matter. I wonder if this is all true or just some kind of joke...perhaps I should talk with Chief Tatamo again.

Griffey's Necklace
Song of forgotten warrior
#p2081000# knows about Sayram but doesn't know anything about the singing shield. He says that I might be able to find some information on it from the #b#t04031479##k which Sayram gave to Griffey, whom he dearly loved. So I'll head to Minar Forest and find the necklace from the #o8180001#. Should be a piece of cake...yea, right...\n\n#i4031479##t4031479# #b#c4031479#/1
I found #t4031479#, and after some "persuasion", obtained the necklace. Now to return to Chief Tatamo and see what he says about this.

Singing Shield
Song of forgotten warrior
I brought the necklace back to Tatamo, the chief of Leafre. He looked at the picture inscribed on the #o8180001#'s necklace, and said that since #b#pc##k knows about Sayram, I should go show him the necklace. Off I go! \n\n#i4031467##t4031467# #b#c4031467#/1
On Chief Tatamo's recommendation, I spoke with #p1061012#, who knew about the necklace and the Singing Shield. I must ask him for more information about the shield!

Sayram's Skill
Song of forgotten warrior
#b#p1061012##k said the picture on the necklace points to #m910500200#, the deepest part in the entrance of the Shrine. He said that I would find the Singing Shield there. However, he said #m910500200# would be locked so I would have to eliminate #o9500139# to get the key....Will I really get Sayram's shield there? The Insignificant Being tells me to try taking the key I already used for another world to #b#p2040052##k as well...This is getting interesting, I'd better keep my weapon close! \n\n#i4031471##t4031471# #b#c4031471#/1#k\n#i4031475##t4031475# #b#c4031475#/1#k
I went to #b#p2040052##k of #b#m222020000##k to find the singing shield. While talking to the Wiz, Wiz found the skill book from the singing shield. This WAS the great warrior Sayram's skill! I have learned a new technique! Quite unexpected but excellent nonetheless. I shall use this in battle to defeat my enemies!

Legend:
2040052 = Wiz the Librarian
222020000 = Helios Tower <Library>
2081000 = Chief Tatamo? Not sure on this one
240000000 = Leafre
4161019 = Sayram's Journey (Journal, possibly? It's an etc item)
4031479 = Sayram's Necklace?
8180001 = Griffey
1061012 = Insignificant Being
910500200 = Forgotten Shrine

I found Rush by accident while looking for Berserk, so I may as well include that:

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Manji's Test
I obtained a book I can't read. It looks like it's written in a strange language. The writing is crude, almost like an animal wrote it...a kind of monster language. I wonder if #b#p1022002##k would know how to read it. Couldn't hurt to speak with him...
My hunch paid off. When I asked #b#p1022002##k about the book, he examined the language closer and came to a conclusion. He said the book is about the #bRush#k skill. He offered to translate, but he said that I must prove myself as one worthy to obtain such power--a true warrior in his eyes. I must eliminate #r200 #o9300087##k in #m910500100# located at the entrance of the Sanctuary, deep in Sleepywood. Manji saw that I was surprised by the high number and advised me to make a party with a few of like-minded companions to ensure victory. This is precisely what friends are for...\n\n#o9300087# #r#a61101##k
With a bit of help from my trusty weapon, I easily defeated the requisite number that #p1022002##k requested. As promised, he translated the book, and it revealed the famed skill known as Rush. I can't wait to try it out!

Fairly certain this is Berserk!:

 Spoiler

The Great Warrior, Sayram
Song of forgotten warrior
#b#p2040052##k of #b#m222020000##k says he has something to tell me...
#p2040052# talked about a warrior named #bSeram#k. He mentioned a singing shield which I can use to get information about the old techniques of Sayram. Then he told me to go see #b#p2081000##k at #bLeafle#k to find more information about him...Let's go see #b#m240000000#'s Chief#k with the #b#t4161019##k that \n#p2040052# gave me. Should be an amusing trip at the least. A singing shield? I wonder... \n\n#i4161019##t4161019# #b#c4161019# / 1#k
Tatamo seems to know about Sayram, however, the singing shield is another matter. I wonder if this is all true or just some kind of joke...perhaps I should talk with Chief Tatamo again.

Griffey's Necklace
Song of forgotten warrior
#p2081000# knows about Sayram but doesn't know anything about the singing shield. He says that I might be able to find some information on it from the #b#t04031479##k which Sayram gave to Griffey, whom he dearly loved. So I'll head to Minar Forest and find the necklace from the #o8180001#. Should be a piece of cake...yea, right...\n\n#i4031479##t4031479# #b#c4031479#/1
I found #t4031479#, and after some "persuasion", obtained the necklace. Now to return to Chief Tatamo and see what he says about this.

Singing Shield
Song of forgotten warrior
I brought the necklace back to Tatamo, the chief of Leafre. He looked at the picture inscribed on the #o8180001#'s necklace, and said that since #b#pc##k knows about Sayram, I should go show him the necklace. Off I go! \n\n#i4031467##t4031467# #b#c4031467#/1
On Chief Tatamo's recommendation, I spoke with #p1061012#, who knew about the necklace and the Singing Shield. I must ask him for more information about the shield!

Sayram's Skill
Song of forgotten warrior
#b#p1061012##k said the picture on the necklace points to #m910500200#, the deepest part in the entrance of the Shrine. He said that I would find the Singing Shield there. However, he said #m910500200# would be locked so I would have to eliminate #o9500139# to get the key....Will I really get Sayram's shield there? The Insignificant Being tells me to try taking the key I already used for another world to #b#p2040052##k as well...This is getting interesting, I'd better keep my weapon close! \n\n#i4031471##t4031471# #b#c4031471#/1#k\n#i4031475##t4031475# #b#c4031475#/1#k
I went to #b#p2040052##k of #b#m222020000##k to find the singing shield. While talking to the Wiz, Wiz found the skill book from the singing shield. This WAS the great warrior Sayram's skill! I have learned a new technique! Quite unexpected but excellent nonetheless. I shall use this in battle to defeat my enemies!

Legend:
2040052 = Wiz the Librarian
222020000 = Helios Tower <Library>
2081000 = Chief Tatamo? Not sure on this one
240000000 = Leafre
4161019 = Sayram's Journey (Journal, possibly? It's an etc item)
4031479 = Sayram's Necklace?
8180001 = Griffey
1061012 = Insignificant Being
910500200 = Forgotten Shrine

most definite, and this explains why i didn't remember the quest for zerk, we got it by plain dumb luck!
again, a million thanks man!, i'll leave the thread open if you want to add anything else or anyone.