Posting Freak
Posts: 4,835
Threads: 174
Joined: 2008-10
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Straight
Country Flag: england
Guild: LegacyReborn
Guild Alliance: Atlas
Just wondering how exactly the card deck buffs work: say I have 3 Pirate cards (2 Explorer, 1 Resistance), can I get the Pirate Spirit ignore monster DEF effect if those three cards aren't in the same deck? Similarly, if I have 3 Explorer cards but they're not in the same deck, do I still get the effect? Or do the cards all have to be together for that to work?
Also, is there a list of card deck buffs per rank? There's a list of the maximum level bonuses on Max's blog but I highly doubt many people are going to have everything at SS rank, myself included. Thanks a lot!
Posting Freak
Posts: 2,478
Threads: 39
Joined: 2011-12
Gender: Male
My understanding is that they need to be in the same deck to get the set effect. Thats why your allowed 2 decks, to set them up for 2 sets.
Posting Freak
Posts: 4,835
Threads: 174
Joined: 2008-10
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Straight
Country Flag: england
Guild: LegacyReborn
Guild Alliance: Atlas
Figures, okay, thank you!
Posting Freak
Posts: 2,239
Threads: 23
Joined: 2009-01
Gender: Male
Country Flag: canada
IGN: Mysteriously
Server: Luna
Level: 221
Job: Bowmaster
Guild: Century
Guild Alliance: Foreigner
You can multiply the stats I wrote by 0.25, .5, and .75 to get the B, A, and S rank bonuses
Posting Freak
Posts: 3,450
Threads: 36
Joined: 2011-05
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Straight
Country Flag: usa
IGN: thewatch3r
Server: Khaini
Level: 204
Job: Lolmaster
Guild: Contagious
HighOnMushrooms Wrote:You can multiply the stats I wrote by 0.25, .5, and .75 to get the B, A, and S rank bonuses 
Not to steal the thread, but I was wondering if you or any other KMSer knows what the % stat resistance is at max for Demon Slayers.
This is all it says on your blog :3
Orangemushroom Blog Wrote:Demon Slayer % resistance to all statuses
Posting Freak
Posts: 4,835
Threads: 174
Joined: 2008-10
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Straight
Country Flag: england
Guild: LegacyReborn
Guild Alliance: Atlas
^Was wondering that too. Thanks a lot [MENTION=3186]HighOnMushrooms[/MENTION];
Posting Freak
Posts: 11,912
Threads: 42
Joined: 2010-06
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Straight
Country Flag: Colorado
IGN: Musiphe
Server: Reboot
Level: 290
Job: Hero
Guild: Delight
Guild Alliance: Cataclysm
CrazyForDex Wrote:Not to steal the thread, but I was wondering if you or any other KMSer knows what the % stat resistance is at max for Demon Slayers.
This is all it says on your blog :3
B/A/S/SS
1/2/3/4%
Also, there was a previous topic on this sort of thing. There's a quite of bit of information on the system
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=55284
Won't Be Coming Back
Posts: 131
Threads: 22
Joined: 2012-04
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Straight
Country Flag: suriname
IGN: Promothian
Server: Siel
Job: Spiritmaster
Guild: Siel_Seals
Guild Alliance: Aion
WAIT! so you're alloud two decks at once?
essentialy granting you 6 class bonuses + two combo bonuses?
Posting Freak
Posts: 2,478
Threads: 39
Joined: 2011-12
Gender: Male
Promothian Wrote:WAIT! so you're alloud two decks at once?
essentialy granting you 6 class bonuses + two combo bonuses?
Yes. You get the effects of all 6 cards, + 2 set bonuses for the 2 sets.
Won't Be Coming Back
Posts: 131
Threads: 22
Joined: 2012-04
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Straight
Country Flag: suriname
IGN: Promothian
Server: Siel
Job: Spiritmaster
Guild: Siel_Seals
Guild Alliance: Aion
Untradeable Wrote:Yes. You get the effects of all 6 cards, + 2 set bonuses for the 2 sets.
I see, now to sit down and figure out the best combination for a phantom.
also can anyone tell me what bonus Vipers get?
Posting Freak
Posts: 2,478
Threads: 39
Joined: 2011-12
Gender: Male
Promothian Wrote:I see, now to sit down and figure out the best combination for a phantom.
also can anyone tell me what bonus Vipers get?
+%Dmg
B/A/S/SS
1/2/3/5% Total Damage
Posting Freak
Posts: 3,705
Threads: 35
Joined: 2010-10
Okay here's one: Can you get two set bonuses from one set?
IE, if I have all 3 Warrior classes in one set, do I get the Warrior Set Bonus AND the Adventurer Set Bonus?
Posting Freak
Posts: 2,478
Threads: 39
Joined: 2011-12
Gender: Male
Polantaris Wrote:Okay here's one: Can you get two set bonuses from one set?
IE, if I have all 3 Warrior classes in one set, do I get the Warrior Set Bonus AND the Adventurer Set Bonus?
Yes.
Won't Be Coming Back
Posts: 131
Threads: 22
Joined: 2012-04
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Straight
Country Flag: suriname
IGN: Promothian
Server: Siel
Job: Spiritmaster
Guild: Siel_Seals
Guild Alliance: Aion
I took a minute to make this , taking info from orangemushroom's blog.
I think the 3 thief bonus would be usefull for my Phantom giving him (assuming it's using a nightwalker ,4th job db and 4th job phantom ) 7% avoid ,4% meso drop , 4% crit damage , 500 HP and MP, 1 attack and magic attack but I'm sure there is a better combination. I don't mind taking the time now to get any char to 120 but I'm having trouble figuring out what will be the most benificial.
Posting Freak
Posts: 11,912
Threads: 42
Joined: 2010-06
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Straight
Country Flag: Colorado
IGN: Musiphe
Server: Reboot
Level: 290
Job: Hero
Guild: Delight
Guild Alliance: Cataclysm
*Is confused by them black bars*
Posting Freak
Posts: 3,717
Threads: 38
Joined: 2008-08
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Gay
Country Flag: canada
Server: Aurora
I'm also planning my character cards exclusively for Phantom ^^u
Since my DS is 200, and my Paly and Aran are on their way there, I'm planning on doing the all Warrior Set effect. I'm also foregoing a second set effect, besides the Rank one, in order to increase the time in which I'd be able to use Luck of Phantom Thief, so I'm going with this:
Deck One:
DS (SS) - Status Resistance
Paly (S/SS) - Level to Damage
Aran (S/SS) - HP Drain
All Warrior (S/SS) - % HP to Damage
All Ranked (S/SS) - HP/MP +700, ATK/MATK +3, 3% Boss Damage (HP/MP +1000, ATK/MATK +5, 5% Boss Damage)
Deck Two:
Mercedes (S) - Cooldown Reduction
Mechanic (S) - Increase Buff Duration
Marksman (S) - Increase Crit Rate
All Ranked (S) - HP/MP +700, ATK/MATK +3, 3% Boss Damage
However, depending on how much the increased crit would really help with Blanc/Noir Carte, I might considering alternatively doing this:
Deck One:
DS (SS) - Status Resistance
Mechanic (S) - Increase Buff Duration
Battle Mage (S) - Decrease Damage Taken
All Resistane (SS) - All Stats +10
All Ranked (S) - HP/MP +700, ATK/MATK +3, 3% Boss Damage
Deck Two:
Aran (S/SS) - HP Drain
Mercedes (S) - Cooldown Reduction
Evan (S) - MP Drain
All Legendary Heroes (SS) - All Stats +10
All Ranked (S) - HP/MP +700, ATK/MATK +3, 3% Boss Damage
Now, a few things, you can have multiples of the same set, at least more than one of the same All (B/A/S/SS) Set, even at the same rank. The all faction set effects, like all Adventurers, Cygnus, whatever, are based on the highest card, so even if you had one SS Ranked card, it'd give you the full SS Rank set effect, unlike the other sets which are based on the lowest card.
I've only tested this with All A Ranked and All Adventures up to S Rank, though.
In kMS, I have two All A Ranked set effects active, and my Adventurer deck consists of my Dual Blade (S), and other characters (A), and the all adventurer deck gives the S rank effect.
Posting Freak
Posts: 12,084
Threads: 135
Joined: 2011-02
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Straight
Country Flag: panama
IGN: ShinkuDragon
HoukaPhoenix
BoshokuRaven
Server: Scania
Level: 152
Job: Batman
Guild: IDissOrtis
iAmFear Wrote:Now, a few things, you can have multiples of the same set, at least more than one of the same All (B/A/S/SS) Set, even at the same rank. The all faction set effects, like all Adventurers, Cygnus, whatever, are based on the highest card, so even if you had one SS Ranked card, it'd give you the full SS Rank set effect, unlike the other sets which are based on the lowest card.
I've only tested this with All A Ranked and All Adventures up to S Rank, though.
In kMS, I have two All A Ranked set effects active, and my Adventurer deck consists of my Dual Blade (S), and other characters (A), and the all adventurer deck gives the S rank effect.
e-wwww, i don't wanna level to 200.
i'm going:
hero-pali-DrK
full warrior bonus
full S bonus
full adventurer bonus
BaM-Mech-DS
full resistance bonus
full S bonus
5% damage resist from BaM (WOOO!)
guess i'll level a hero to 200, and my ol' demon slayer ~_~
Posting Freak
Posts: 8,478
Threads: 128
Joined: 2008-07
Gender: Neuter
Country Flag: canada
IGN: Oooh
Server: Bera
Job: Empress
Farm: Stereo
iAmFear Wrote:Now, a few things, you can have multiples of the same set, at least more than one of the same All (B/A/S/SS) Set, even at the same rank. The all faction set effects, like all Adventurers, Cygnus, whatever, are based on the highest card, so even if you had one SS Ranked card, it'd give you the full SS Rank set effect, unlike the other sets which are based on the lowest card.
Huh now that's interesting. Although the only time it'll come up for me is if the All-warrior+all-adventurer cumulative effects are better than all-S.
DS (S) + Dark Knight (S) + Aran (S) -> All Warrior
vs.
Paladin (S) + Dark Knight (S) + Crusader (A) -> All Warrior, All Adventurer
I think it ends up being +2 atk +200 hp +3% bossing vs. +8-all. On a boss, the triple-S wins, otherwise Adventurer wins.
(the real solution is train my Crusader to Hero...)
It's too bad none of the factions (cygnus, adventurer, resistance, heroes) have 3 classes with useful bonuses. Makes it kinda less helpful to get them, if you're picking out any class you want.
Posting Freak
Posts: 12,084
Threads: 135
Joined: 2011-02
Gender: Male
Sexual Orientation: Straight
Country Flag: panama
IGN: ShinkuDragon
HoukaPhoenix
BoshokuRaven
Server: Scania
Level: 152
Job: Batman
Guild: IDissOrtis
someone should really whip up a chart with all the bonuses of ranks B through SS
-is not that someone- ._.
Posting Freak
Posts: 8,478
Threads: 128
Joined: 2008-07
Gender: Neuter
Country Flag: canada
IGN: Oooh
Server: Bera
Job: Empress
Farm: Stereo
ShinkuDragon Wrote:someone should really whip up a chart with all the bonuses of ranks B through SS
-is not that someone- ._.
I'm mostly wondering about the ones that aren't accurate from the list (Paladin, I/L Archmage, and Flame Wizard have "level to all stat" listed, but Paladin, at least, doesn't do that - it adds to damage, which is what Viper and Striker are listed as having)
Also, is Cannon Trooper's -5% exp lost a straight up change? If I lose 9% now, it becomes 4%?
|