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FenixR Wrote:Hexdrinker and Executioner Calling.
How do you know he doesn't mean Wriggle's Lantern?
Raul Wrote:IMO DoT damage is far more potent than simple straight-up damage, because of its ability to seem insignificant but to be actually very damaging.
Except in this case, we see that the numbers are clearly not in favor of EC. Disregarding health regeneration, a single hit from Wit's End does more damage than the whole 8 second DoT from EC.
Ultimately, I'd have to say in its current incarnation, EC is meant to be anti-regen and anti-healing, not something that does damage.
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KajitiSouls Wrote:How do you know he doesn't mean Wriggle's Lantern?
Because its common(?) knowledge that Wriggle's Latern its not a underdog kind of item, and Hexdrinker and Executioner calling are on the same Tier level.
Or at least thats why i though he meant Hex and not Wriggles.
KajitiSouls Wrote:Ultimately, I'd have to say in its current incarnation, EC is meant to be anti-regen and anti-healing, not something that does damage.
And this is the reason why EC could shine in Top the most, because afaik in the current meta top is filled with champs packed with good Sustain/Regen (Among other things), most effectively used against sustain since they need to get close to hit the minions and recover.
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FenixR Wrote:Because its common(?) knowledge that Wriggle's Latern its not a underdog kind of item, and Hexdrinker and Executioner calling are on the same Tier level.
Or at least thats why i though he meant Hex and not Wriggles.
Hexdrinker is on a better level now that it can be upgraded to MoM. I have definitely noticed MoM to be a problem for me when I played caster champions.
Also, in my OP I stated that EC can be compared to Wriggle's.
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Unleashing Wrote:Wait... Rammus? Executioners calling? Why?
F6
Shits and giggles, plus it's a champ I've been meaning to try out and I have limited time.
MasPan Wrote:[COLOR="#cc8899"]That's an entirely counterintuitive way of thinking. Less damage is better because people underestimate it? Most players worth their salt recognize a threat regardless of the source, so you're generally going to want to go with whatever's outright stronger if the only stat you're looking at is the damage on-hit. And Malefic Visions is designed to sit there for a bit to make killing creeps easier and efficient, since it bounces from one to the next. It does the same damage to a player standing still as it does to one running away. It also makes for a really efficient spell vamp ability, given that it is single target but will eventually rack up a lot of damage if given the chance.
Again, the damage over time is there to harass people and further mitigate healing effects, not to kill anyone.[/COLOR]
Except for stacks. Depending on how many times EC stacks, it could be much better than WE.
Also MV is used, at least in some times/places, simply to make them run away from the threat, which gives Malz time to escape or heal or get a gank in place or any number of things.
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FenixR Wrote:And this is the reason why EC could shine in Top the most, because afaik in the current meta top is filled with champs packed with good Sustain/Regen (Among other things), most effectively used against sustain since they need to get close to hit the minions and recover.
it makes teemo sooooo much more annoying...
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Raul Wrote:Shits and giggles, plus it's a champ I've been meaning to try out and I have limited time.
Except for stacks. Depending on how many times EC stacks, it could be much better than WE.
[COLOR="#cc8899"]No, it can't. At all. Wit's End outdamages it. Every. Time. For one, Executioner's Calling does NOT stack (I started looking into this) according to anything I've read. So it ends up being an extra 4 damage per hit, + 7 seconds of 4/s DoT once you stop hitting someone.
Even if it DID, 5 stacks of EC would do 20/s for 8 seconds (although technically it'd stagger as each stack expires), for a total of 160 damage. 5 hits from Wit's End would do 200 damage. The difference gets larger and larger as you add "stacks" not smaller.
TLDR: Wit's End annihilates it in raw damage. EC is NOT a damage item, don't build it for such. It's a specialized weapon against champions that might otherwise have too much sustain.[/COLOR]
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Raul Wrote:Except for stacks. Depending on how many times EC stacks, it could be much better than WE.
It refreshes the cooldown, nothing else. Toxic Shot doesn't stack and neither does EC.
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