KMST 1.2.411 - Phantom
Horray for class balance and this class not being broken damage!
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Arrol Wrote:Shadow Partner is a summon, Phantom can't steal summons, this has been discussed pages ago.

Make it undispelable like one then!

Well, not that it matters now, without the need of rocks.
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Mastery might be a glitch, seems broken like that.. Has anyone tried using an elemental charge and using an elemental attack and seeing if the damage adds up? Lightning Charge + Chain Lightning would be pro.
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maplefreak26 Wrote:That happens when you try to steal a skill from a character that you aren't supposed to steal from.

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It is most of the time, but I don't think a class with DK's berserk is a character I'm not supposed to steal from.

Also happened when I target a guy with battleship mount, pretty sure he's a Captain.
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Killmeplsok Wrote:It is most of the time, but I don't think a class with DK's berserk is a character I'm not supposed to steal from.

Also happened when I target a guy with battleship mount, pretty sure he's a Captain.

Or it could also be a Phantom.

Copied a Phantom accidentally once.... not the best sound of stupid popups.
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maplefreak26 Wrote:Or it could also be a Phantom.

Copied a Phantom accidentally once.... not the best sound of stupid popups.

Can't be, a phantom can't get Berserk skill or steal a mounting skill.
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Killmeplsok Wrote:It is most of the time, but I don't think a class with DK's berserk is a character I'm not supposed to steal from.

Also happened when I target a guy with battleship mount, pretty sure he's a Captain.
i think phantom's the reason why they remove battleship/xformation
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Teppi Wrote:i think phantom's the reason why they remove battleship/xformation
That's moronic thinking.
Clearly, they have no problem 'blacklisting' skills.
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Zangash Wrote:Wild Hunter. It's actually surprising you didn't think of them before posting that, seeings how attacking on their mount is the point of their entire class existence...

It's surprising you didn't notice my sarcasm. Rolleyes
Precisely I was thinking how Nexon could have done something for Buccs, but decided not to do it. Seeing how attacking on a mount is entirely possible.

Of course Nexon just decided to screw Buccs by removing S.Transformation and making it a stupid spirit, only to give it back as a mount, which makes no sense seeing it's a separate being now, and just makes you remember that you could attack in the past, but can't anymore.

By the way, has anyone seen the female S.Transformation sprite, either for skills or mount? Just wanting to confirm it still exists.
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Viaje Wrote:That's moronic thinking.
Clearly, they have no problem 'blacklisting' skills.
why "blacklist" skills and lower the hype since they wont be able to fully steal the skills since old pirates' moves are mostly transform/boat-based? they want to have the hype so people jump on the bandwagon and give them nx......
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Teppi Wrote:why "blacklist" skills and lower the hype since they wont be able to fully steal the skills since old pirates' moves are mostly transform/boat-based? they want to have the hype so people jump on the bandwagon and give them nx......

Phantoms use canes, and Corsair skills all require guns, but they somehow managed to get around that roadblock.
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JoeTang Wrote:Phantoms use canes, and Corsair skills all require guns, but they somehow managed to get around that roadblock.
wat's ur point?
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Teppi Wrote:wat's ur point?
They could create a "Soul's ship" / "Phantom's transformation" if they want to, like how they did to all other skills.
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Killmeplsok Wrote:They could create a "Soul's ship" / "Phantom's transformation" if they want to, like how they did to all other skills.
then wouldn't it be just like right now for transformation/bucc?
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Teppi Wrote:then wouldn't it be just like right now for transformation/bucc?

Huh? I meant the skills for phantom. Like how they get soul weapons now.
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Exidous Wrote:Horray for class balance and this class not being broken damage!

Wait until the next KMST update. I'm predicting that they will increase the attack power to ridiculously broken proportions.
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Teppi Wrote:why "blacklist" skills and lower the hype since they wont be able to fully steal the skills since old pirates' moves are mostly transform/boat-based? they want to have the hype so people jump on the bandwagon and give them nx......
Now I'm going to need you to actually try to explain this post.

Are you claiming that, if people found themselves unable to copy the Battleship/Transform skills, they would not make a Phantom at all?

Like hell they wouldn't.
No idiot would decide whether or not to make this class based on whether or not he can ride around in a Battleship.
He'd just go make a Sair.

Buccs don't actually need Transform's animations to pull off the skills that require transform since the animations exist for the standard sprites, so that's a null point anyway.
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Killmeplsok Wrote:Huh? I meant the skills for phantom. Like how they get soul weapons now.
that'd make it overly complicate since they need to make a new set of weapon for 1-3 skills of each class.....and by removing xformation from bucc and replacing it with the new animation right now (xformation do the work for u), it gives nexon more nx since people can see their chars' clothes now, less coding and storage usage (replacing animation is better than ADDING soul weapons), and give bucc a sense of change
Viaje Wrote:Now I'm going to need you to actually try to explain this post.

Are you claiming that, if people found themselves unable to copy the Battleship/Transform skills, they would not make a Phantom at all?

Like hell they wouldn't.
No idiot would decide whether or not to make this class based on whether or not he can ride around in a Battleship.
He'd just go make a Sair.

Buccs don't actually need Transform's animations to pull off the skills that require transform since the animations exist for the standard sprites, so that's a null point anyway.
THOSE PEOPLE are the ones that do not like the phantom class if they have the same belief, which is not a problem at all
many love to combine skills based on situations, which is what make this class fun and attract more people. the more they can copy and have more options for their styles, the more people will be attracted to it. some people (like people who play sin) really don't like the whole 120+ of spamming a star throwing skill, and this class would be perfect for them because they can throw stars all they want and change it up once in a while if they feel like it
and quite true for bucc, but how about sair. would be odd if someone just stand there firing a bunch of cannonballs from the boat without the boat.
and adding on to the removal of the ship...it only makes sense. nexon recently added cannoneers, which essentially is similar to the ship cannon anyway. sure the name "captain" doesn't quite fit anymore without the ship but the class was originally based on a GUN. the way they originally designed was pretty funny because 1st --> 3rd job gunslingers run around and shoot people with their gun, being all crazy, and suddenly 4th job they mainly hide behind their boat
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Why do I feel a sense of impending doom for Evan's...?
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LegendGospel Wrote:It's surprising you didn't notice my sarcasm. Rolleyes
Precisely I was thinking how Nexon could have done something for Buccs, but decided not to do it. Seeing how attacking on a mount is entirely possible.

Of course Nexon just decided to screw Buccs by removing S.Transformation and making it a stupid spirit, only to give it back as a mount, which makes no sense seeing it's a separate being now, and just makes you remember that you could attack in the past, but can't anymore.

By the way, has anyone seen the female S.Transformation sprite, either for skills or mount? Just wanting to confirm it still exists.

It's not in the skills, but I don't know how to get the mount so I can't tell you.
I don't see why everyone's so damn upset about removing STF and battleship. It meant nothing to me, I just liked the looks kinda.
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