Tespia is now OPEN!

How does this new system affect quest items (e.g. Lunar Dews)? Or Etc. and Use items needed for quests (e.g. Sentinel Shellpieces, Walnuts, etc.) Also, Transformation Potions, how will I make them?

That doesn't matter! NO MORE BOTTING IN GMS OMG.

That doesn't matter! NO MORE BOTTING IN GMS OMG.

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so my lvl 200 can no longer find recipe off nub monsters? like angelic ring recipe off MDT

Yup

That is the most idiotic anti-bot idea I ever heard.
Bot operators will only be slightly inconvenienced, and will have to work out a new farming schedule for their bots that has them moving to a new monster every few levels, or kill them to prevent leveling.
But normal people who can't manage to have 40 characters at 5-level intervals, they are seriously screwed.

That is the most idiotic anti-bot idea I ever heard.
Bot operators will only be slightly inconvenienced, and will have to work out a new farming schedule for their bots that has them moving to a new monster every few levels, or kill them to prevent leveling.
But normal people who can't manage to have 40 characters at 5-level intervals, they are seriously screwed.

or the botters could just farm on perma 120 cygnus knights

That doesn't matter! NO MORE BOTTING IN GMS OMG.

Wrong. CK botters have existed for quite some time and the ABR will continue to come. Not only that...

Stronghold Knights can be all the rage!!! LET THE DREAM FRAGMENTS FLOW LIKE PIECES OF TIME AND DROWN US IN SLEEPYTIME VISIONS! Also, there's your new source of MMB's.

A system that benefits everyone (except non-hackers/botters).

Wrong. CK botters have existed for quite some time and the ABR will continue to come. Not only that...

Stronghold Knights can be all the rage!!! LET THE DREAM FRAGMENTS FLOW LIKE PIECES OF TIME AND DROWN US IN SLEEPYTIME VISIONS! Also, there's your new source of MMB's.

A system that benefits everyone (except non-hackers/botters).

I was talking from Nexon's perspective. I don't give a flying F'UCK about ABRs or botting in general. Dream fragments need to drop a lot more often though.

W8baby have auto rush, at certain lvl it will jist auto rush them to the map they want to . Hackers are too strong for nexon.

Hmm. So, like the guy above me said, what happens with quest items from lower level mobs?

I really hope I don't end up without even level 1 Vampire.

Ugh, hopefully they actually think about the problems associated with this system instead of going, "LOLCOPYPASTA!" *click*.

Hmm. So, like the guy above me said, what happens with quest items from lower level mobs?

I really hope I don't end up without even level 1 Vampire.

Ugh, hopefully they actually think about the problems associated with this system instead of going, "LOLCOPYPASTA!" *click*.

...we're doomed.

How does this new system affect quest items (e.g. Lunar Dews)? Or Etc. and Use items needed for quests (e.g. Sentinel Shellpieces, Walnuts, etc.) Also, Transformation Potions, how will I make them?

It doesn't. You're still gonna get etc drops and quest items from monsters regardless of how much higher you are. It's only equips, use items, and mesos that are affected.

It doesn't. You're still gonna get etc drops and quest items from monsters regardless of how much higher you are. It's only equips, use items, and mesos that are affected.

Some quests require Use items. Example off the top of my head: Sap of Ancient Tree. Drops from level 14 Dark Axe Stumps. Required for level 45 quest Jane the Alchemist. By that point you can only get it from Stumpy (because it's a Boss), which you can fight once an hour, and does not always drop it. Oh joy.

But seriously, what's the idea of making us unable to use our high-level chars to hunt for recipes, scrolls, lower-level equips to fuse or disassemble for crystals... You don't like botters? Send GMs after them. This anti-bot measure is anti-all-players as well.
Nobody actually trains where the good stuff drops, especially now with the oh-so-godly Monster Park, so by the time someone is high enough level to feel they have some leisure - or need some money - they can't hunt anywhere but only within a narrow level range. Sorry, but that's horrible.

Too bad Nexon has already reached its quota of "listening to the players" for this year (decade?) and there's no way to fix it. Oh well, good job forcing high level chars off the game. Nothing to do but a couple boss runs a day (and ©HT still glitched and CWKPQ still closed... oh joy!)

Submitting reports can still be done if you put in the URL(clicking the button results in a 'coming soon!' box) by the way.

It's not like this is the first time they have completely messed up a lot of the quests, remember Aftershock?

Hopefully we'll get a complete quest revamp with the Thief/Pirate Jump patch, they have been more or less messed up (wrong descriptions, useless prizes, impossible to get requirements) since BB and are becoming even more so.

What?
Ratio is 60:40.
HS now works differently (holy sh`it). Instead of capping at 1.1x your base it now gives you the actual 150% exp.

Apparently you feel my numbers are conjecture. They are not. Those are actual numbers taken from the screen. (I have 3 accounts in Tespia, thus I can do that.) The reason I didn't post any SS to show it is because my laptop has a functionalized Scroll Lock key. (I have to hold the Fn button to make the scroll Lock key work, but maple doesn't allow that combination.)

The bishop got 40% of the total experience while sitting on a rope. Since the party was 2 members and they were equal level, they would each get half of the Shared experience. If half the Shared experience is 40% of the Total exp, then the total of the Shared experience must be 80%. This isn't rocket science. This chart contains -actual- game numbers, not assumed or calculated numbers:

	DK Exp	DK Bonus	Bish exp	Bish Bonus
Alone	2149	0	0	0
Party (no HS)	1289	129	860	86
Party (w/HS)	1934	194	1289	129

Conditions: Both characters are lvl 130. DK is the only one who attacked. Base Exp for the mob is 2149.

The numbers prove 20% exp by Damage, 80% exp Shared. They are not sufficient to support the idea that HS has changed in any way. The DK with HS didn't even get to 100% the original base and thus it cannot be determined here if the 110% cap is in place. Each party member got 150% of their non-HS exp. This is normal and would occur in the existing game. But since the killer only got 60% of the base, HS brings him up to 90% of the base. Currently in GMS, he would hit the 110% cap. In tespia he doesn't.

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It's the exact same thing we had before, 60:40 for killer:leecher (or 20:80 for damagehare, however you want to put it).

And I think Locked made his point pretty clear: SOLO HS users are no longer capped by the 110% EXP gain. I can't verify nor vouch for this, but it's pretty obvious to me what he meant and actually said were the same thing.

Here's confirmation that you can get 1.5x EXP solo with HS.

 With HS

 Without HS

6/4 is 1.5.

Here's confirmation that you can get 1.5x EXP solo with HS.


6/4 is 1.5.

AWesome. That means I don't have to add that exception to my calculator. I also want to confirm that the 110% cap is indeed gone too. I wasn't up to speed on that. I discovered it while testing for my calc program.

Hey look. Exactly what I said!
2149*.6 = 1289
1289 * 1.5 = 1934

How about that?!?

Hey look. Exactly what I said!
2149*.6 = 1289
1289 * 1.5 = 1934

How about that?!?

yea but his had pictures with pretty colors

Hey look. Exactly what I said!
2149*.6 = 1289
1289 * 1.5 = 1934

How about that?!?

But he had big words....