[KMS] [1.2.140] Dojo Revamp
#21
kremechoko Wrote:From what I experienced, they removed Lie Detector Tests for Rankings mode. Maybe for all modes but I haven't bothered to check.

That's a lie! I got one Tongue.
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#22
Devil Wrote:Uhm I don't think that 188m HP is in Dojo, it's the 11,750,000 HP one that's for Dojo.

You can NEVER have enough MP to kill 188m HP, because dojo never summons minions (well ok maybe 1x per 5minutes, fail...), it's just plain not possible to kill 188m hp without mp-repot...

Well oik, maybe demon slayers can kill him, since they dont use mp and have healing skills...

Time to look for pro mp recovery earrings...or just dojo on my I/L (yay infinity's mp recovery)
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#23
Killmeplsok Wrote:Nothing? I mean, this patch is a Dojo revamp only I guess.

Look at the mobs, they changed the time temple bosses. which aren't in dojo.
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#24
kremechoko Wrote:What mode?

the middle one don't know whats it called but i guess it's normal mode
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#25
Mario Wrote:Look at the mobs, they changed the time temple bosses. which aren't in dojo.
No, they didn't change the Time Temple bosses. Had they, the mobs in question would appear under "Mob (Changed)".

The Time Temple bosses are now in Dojo. Herpderp.

Devil Wrote:Uhm I don't think that 188m HP is in Dojo, it's the 11,750,000 HP one that's for Dojo.
Where else would it be?

Bomber Wrote:GL finishing mu gong w/o mp pots. X__x
Devil Wrote:You can NEVER have enough MP to kill 188m HP, because dojo never summons minions (well ok maybe 1x per 5minutes, fail...), it's just plain not possible to kill 188m hp without mp-repot...
Also, as someone said, mages can recover MP via MP Eater and Infinity.

Bishops have it even better since, by the time this comes out, they will also have Advanced Bless that reduces MP cost by 20%. Add in the fact they can heal, and I can see them finishing (even if it takes a hell of a long time).

There's also Mercedes that regularly recovers a good amount of MP. Not sure if she still has the drain-like skill.

Overall though, I'm pretty sure the new Dojo isn't meant to be a solo experience (unless it is no longer a party quest).
This isn't such a bad idea overall (who doesn't love bossing?!), but you might quickly realize what a plantain move it is to have a PQ that requires team work and simultaneously only gives the top reward to one individual.

EDIT: OMG IT'S SOLO ONLY?!
Oh, Nexon, you know your own game so well! It's almost as if you're scared of making things too easy so you make them impossibly hard so that you can just fix it later.

So, yes, the hackers of GMS will most definitely be the only ones to own this glove.
Maybe NexonNA will start using it as a marker for an auto-ban.
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#26
Hm, well i'll definitely be in line. Puppet = win.
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#27
White Wrote:Hm, well i'll definitely be in line. Puppet = win.
I don't see how Puppet will grant you more MP.
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#28
Viaje Wrote:I don't see how Puppet will grant you more MP.

The 30k HP puppet can save him several seconds. Perhaps enough to be in the Top 50 with the hackers.
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#29
Eliseo Wrote:The 30k HP puppet can save him several seconds. Perhaps enough to be in the Top 50 with the hackers.
Save him seconds for what?
If he runs out of MP, he can no longer Hurricane, which means the boss stops dying.
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#30
I'm still seeing Demon slayers having an easy time with the new Dojo.
Doesnt rely on MP, check.
Has a decent drain skill, check.
Lotsa HP, check.
Lotsa def, check.
Decent damage, check.
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#31
Viaje Wrote:Save him seconds for what?
If he runs out of MP, he can no longer Hurricane, which means the boss stops dying.

Didn't they added MP potions? And the sauna still heals MP without giving extra seconds, so it's possible. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure one can.
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#32
Eliseo Wrote:Didn't they added MP potions? And the sauna still heals MP without giving extra seconds, so it's possible. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure one can.

They didn't add MP potions.
Oh and lookie -> New Mu Lung Dojo Chart.
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#33
Eliseo Wrote:Didn't they added MP potions? And the sauna still heals MP without giving extra seconds, so it's possible. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure one can.

i remember someone in kms saying they couldn't heal mp in that suana room anymore
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#34
shakar96 Wrote:They didn't add MP potions.
Oh and lookie -> New Mu Lung Dojo Chart.

Then I take it Nexon designed it to be semi-Impossible, unless you are a Demon Slayer.

Nexon never stops amazing me. I hate when the new content its impossible with low funded characters.

Wonder if I can beat it with several more seconds from the HP potions + my MP recovery aura.
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#35
Liteness Wrote:i remember someone in kms saying they couldn't heal mp in that suana room anymore

can you stop middway and continue like before? o.O

or use chairs? only reason i've been able to solo dojo so far was because of beholder unaggro, and me sitting on a chair in a corner hoping papu wouldn't touch me D:
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#36
shakar96 Wrote:They didn't add MP potions.
Oh and lookie -> New Mu Lung Dojo Chart.

188m HP?
Well then.
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#37
shakar96 Wrote:They didn't add MP potions.
Oh and lookie -> New Mu Lung Dojo Chart.
ROFL check the last 5 bosses on HP, do that with no mp repot? :')

188m+168m+148m+128m+108m = 740m HP without repotting! Big Grin
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#38
Unleashing Wrote:I'm still seeing Demon slayers having an easy time with the new Dojo.
Doesnt rely on MP, check.
Has a decent drain skill, check.
Lotsa HP, check.
Lotsa def, check.
Decent damage, check.
This.

Do also remember that they get a form of Achilles so, even after a 1/1, they're likely to have enough HP left to take a hit or two as they get enough Demon Force to use a HP-restoring skill.

Also, with maxed Willpower, they'd be completely immune to status effects so now worries about getting locked/seduced.

Eliseo Wrote:Didn't they added MP potions? And the sauna still heals MP without giving extra seconds, so it's possible. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure one can.
No, they didn't add MP potions.
Even if they had, I don't believe rest stages come after every boss which means you're still tasked with taking off hundreds of HP with a single pool of MP.

Now, would you mind answering my question?
A 30,000 HP puppet saves him seconds for what, exactly?
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#39
Viaje Wrote:This.

Do also remember that they get a form of Achilles so, even after a 1/1, they're likely to have enough HP left to take a hit or two as they get enough Demon Force to use a HP-restoring skill.

Also, with maxed Willpower, they'd be completely immune to status effects so now worries about getting locked/seduced.


No, they didn't add MP potions.
Even if they had, I don't believe rest stages come after every boss which means you're still tasked with taking off hundreds of HP with a single pool of MP.

Now, would you mind answering my question?
A 30,000 HP puppet saves him seconds for what, exactly?

Isn't it obvious? I expected more from the legendary Viaje.

The puppet takes the damage while the archer doesn't, avoiding the need of gettin HP potions, which costs seconds, so he saves seconds from the Dojo scoring, making his time less than what it would be without the puppet.
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#40
Eliseo Wrote:Isn't it obvious? I expected more from the legendary Viaje.
In regards to what exactly?

Also, you can hold the snark; it provides absolutely nothing of value.
Ad hominem does nothing to support your case as the source of criticism does nothing to change the validity of said criticism.

Eliseo Wrote:The puppet takes the damage while the archer doesn't, avoiding the need of gettin HP potions, which costs seconds, so he saves seconds from the Dojo scoring, making his time less than what it would be without the puppet.
I posted:
"I don't see how Puppet will grant you more MP."

To which you responded:
"The 30k HP puppet can save him several seconds. Perhaps enough to be in the Top 50 with the hackers."

Your reply did nothing to answer my inquiry.

Devil Wrote:ROFL check the last 5 bosses on HP, do that with no mp repot? :')

188m+168m+148m+128m+108m = 740m HP without repotting! Big Grin
Yay! for something that is quite literally impossible for most classes.

Paladin example:
- Max damage every hit of Blast = ~3m damage per Blast.
- Blast costs 25MP per cast.
- 740 / 3 = 247 casts.
- 247 * 25 = 6175 MP.

I think my 163 Pally has maybe a third of that...
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