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Horntail Glitch.
#41
I find it not bad at all in Kradia. No one dc hacks afaik. I ran after the recent USC and only one group was there on ch8, so me and a guildy went to 9 and it was open. No lines or anything less than 2 hrs after the SC. Of course, HTP prices fluctuate a lot here. I had 350mil a few months back and thought of buying one only to find they'd gone up to almost 500mil (3-L, egg in both cases). Only problem I have is that I'll need another run to finish the HTP I got with an Egg, and with school and little play time allowed (on the weekdays), that'll be pretty difficult. I feel so sheltered here in Kradia seeing as I've never heard of dc hackers that control bosses except every so often when someone pops up then goes away a bit later. Not even dc hacking in some cases, just controlling flow.
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#42
Zenkat Wrote:Non-instanced bosses piss me off.
As the fucking should.

Because...

Zenkat Wrote:Also, dont give a crap about people using HTP's for wealth. The boss is so easy. Without the current one year glitch (and DC dipshyts), we'd have much cheaper pendants for everyone.

/rage
...the problem isn't that people are benefiting from selling the HTPs they get from runs.
The problem is that the number of people able to even run is artificially limited.

They should have made all bosses instances way back during the original HT DC spree that managed to keep the price of skills like Genesis 30, Berserk 30, and Maple Warrior 20 ridiculously high for AGES.

The problem is that Nexon just does not give a single pomegranate about how such exploits affect their customers.
Worse, they try to profit from it!
Look at Item Locks! That's Nexon straight-up saying "Hey, we know there's a pretty damn good chance that your account is going to be compromised, but we can make sure they don't do too much damage... if you pay us."
That's quite literally the definition of extortion... and people are big enough saps to buy into it!

If I had the money, I'd throw a class-action lawsuit at their asses so fast.

Honestly, I'm surprised they having created three Cash Shop items that (1) make you invisible and (2) fight instanced versions of every boss.
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#43
Takebacker Wrote:It's ok. We all know getting to a high level of funding and power means we shouldn't be able to be rewarded by bosses and their drops.

Now I'm really hoping the issue gets fixed so that egos like you can simmer down a bit. Rolleyes

happylight Wrote:The best way to fix this is not to actually fix the bug, but to introduce some other pendant better than HTP/CHTP that's easy to obtain. Then the people who actually wants to HT for fun can do it.

And you're probably one of those people that want to hog HT all for yourself or something. Also, there are people out there that want to kill HT for fun, and there are people that want to kill it for money. There's no doubt about that. But what difference does it make if you get screwed out of the list and have to wait for the next SC or patch to try to fight your way into the list again? It surely isn't profitable or fun either way.
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#44
I'm quite fed up with this glitch. I just want to kill Horntail with my guild. I don't care if it is profitable. Most of us never got to HT in the "good old days." Well, I better start on the quest in case Nexon ever fixes this.

Is Chaos Horntail the same way?
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#45
dontlisten Wrote:I'm quite fed up with this glitch. I just want to kill Horntail with my guild. I don't care if it is profitable. Most of us never got to HT in the "good old days." Well, I better start on the quest in case Nexon ever fixes this.

Is Chaos Horntail the same way?
Chaos horntail works fine, but you need to have 12 surviving members, and take atleast an hour and a half to getdrops.
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#46
Blades4hire Wrote:Chaos horntail works fine, but you need to have 12 surviving members, and take atleast an hour and a half to getdrops.
isn't CHT glitched too?
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#47
Blades4hire Wrote:Chaos horntail works fine, but you need to have 12 surviving members, and take atleast an hour and a half to getdrops.

Chaos Horntail has the same glitch.
It's just, since it drops nothing, no one bothers to do it.
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#48
Oh, never mind. I just assumed that since I never had any problem getting in, that it wasn't glitched.
And, there's a method to get drops, but you can only pull it off twice per week, not to mention, it's really hard to get 12 people to come.
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#49
I think the glitch is terrible. Why should only hackers get to run? And why should legits be forced to purchase pendents from hackers or pay hackers to let them run?

(Yes I'm from bello where they dc hack everyone who enters HT who they don't approve of.)

If they fix it hackers will have to stand guard on two channels 24/7 instead of just the first part of the week until it fills. I think that will make HT possible again in Bello (so sorry for you Scania).

But srs nexon should fix expidation hack since it's been around just as long.
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#50
LittlePrincess Wrote:I think the glitch is terrible. Why should only hackers get to run? And why should legits be forced to purchase pendents from hackers or pay hackers to let them run?

(Yes I'm from bello where they dc hack everyone who enters HT who they don't approve of.)

If they fix it hackers will have to stand guard on two channels 24/7 instead of just the first part of the week until it fills. I think that will make HT possible again in Bello (so sorry for you Scania).

But srs nexon should fix expidation hack since it's been around just as long.

Kinda sad that the poor man's HT pendant was basically removed by nexon (the MoN). You can use the silent crusader pendants, but the scrolls are like 100mil each and by the time you use 5 (and get them all to work), you're better off having bought a hacked HT pendant...
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#51
ShinkuDragon Wrote:isn't CHT glitched too?

People really need to stop assuming things are "GLITCHED".
The two limits for HT and CHT were put on to stop faders.
Of course, CHT's limit is a bit excessive... seeing as it will never drop anything.

This was shortly after the CHT fade era, where a certain few people abused it to hell. Tongue1

This isn't a glitch, stop saying it is one.

Blades4Hire Wrote:Oh, never mind. I just assumed that since I never had any problem getting in, that it wasn't glitched.
And, there's a method to get drops, but you can only pull it off twice per week, not to mention, it's really hard to get 12 people to come.

Non-existent fake method is exactly that.
CHT is set not to drop anything, no matter the number of people present or the amount of time on the map.

If you purchased the "METHOD", you were badly scammed.
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#52
StopMe Wrote:People really need to stop assuming things are "GLITCHED".
The two limits for HT and CHT were put on to stop faders.
Of course, CHT's limit is a bit excessive... seeing as it will never drop anything.

This was shortly after the CHT fade era, where a certain few people abused it to hell. Tongue1

This isn't a glitch, stop saying it is one.



Non-existent fake method is exactly that.
CHT is set not to drop anything, no matter the number of people present or the amount of time on the map.

If you purchased the "METHOD", you were badly scammed.

excuse me, i mean the ENTRANCE glitch, i never said the bosses themselves were glitched, thank you very much. this thread is about the entrance glitch
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#53
ShinkuDragon Wrote:excuse me, i mean the ENTRANCE glitch, i never said the bosses themselves were glitched, thank you very much. this thread is about the entrance glitch

Your post was about CHT, there is no entrance glitch besides the 30 limit.
My post was about the exact same thing.

I simply pointed out that CHT does not have a glitch attached with it.

ShinkuDragon Wrote:isn't CHT glitched too?

The 30 limit (Or "entrance glitch), as most regular HTers know, isn't much of a big deal as it is.
You can still solo as long as you made the list.

Partying at a boss like this is pointless. If you really want to, log in after a SC and get it done.

Again, not a glitch.
The limit was put there on purpose. People need to accept it.

To further my point, the sign up even says "You have been enrolled into the Horntail squad" if you successfully make the top 30.

Also, this 12 surviving people rumor at CHT is getting old.
We've had 15 survive and waited till the last 45 seconds to kill it; no drops.

It's logical for this to have been done. Enough CHTP's were introduced into the economy, the hammer glitch just made it worse.
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#54
StopMe Wrote:Your post was about CHT, there is no entrance glitch besides the 30 limit.
My post was about the exact same thing.

I simply pointed out that CHT does not have a glitch attached with it.



The 30 limit (Or "entrance glitch), as most regular HTers know, isn't much of a big deal as it is.
You can still solo as long as you made the list.

Partying at a boss like this is pointless. If you really want to, log in after a SC and get it done.

Again, not a glitch.
The limit was put there on purpose. People need to accept it.

To further my point, the sign up even says "You have been enrolled into the Horntail squad" if you successfully make the top 30.

Also, this 12 surviving people rumor at CHT is getting old.
We've had 15 survive and waited till the last 45 seconds to kill it; no drops.

It's logical for this to have been done. Enough CHTP's were introduced into the economy, the hammer glitch just made it worse.

you obviously aren't from scania are you?
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#55
StopMe Wrote:The 30 limit (Or "entrance glitch), as most regular HTers know, isn't much of a big deal as it is.
You can still solo as long as you made the list.

Partying at a boss like this is pointless. If you really want to, log in after a SC and get it done.

Again, not a glitch.
The limit was put there on purpose. People need to accept it.
Then I posit that it is a very bad design choice. Limiting a very powerful boss to people that can A) solo B) get pass the DCers C) log in soon after a SC to do so. Sounds patently absurd to me.
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#56
StopMe Wrote:Also, this 12 surviving people rumor at CHT is getting old.
We've had 15 survive and waited till the last 45 seconds to kill it; no drops.

It's logical for this to have been done. Enough CHTP's were introduced into the economy, the hammer glitch just made it worse.

lol funny how you said 12 surviving people and then you go on to say you had 15 people.

You need exactly 12.

But no, don't bother trying it out or believe anyone who says otherwise. Your mind is already made up.
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#57
ShinkuDragon Wrote:you obviously aren't from scania are you?

Windia was just as bad, until I left.
1 person gets in, you ask them to let you in. It is just that simple.

I made the cut every single time.

True, the list is full within the first hour on average, but get to know the runners and there will be no problems.

People need to quit peaching about this.
It is not a glitch.

happylight Wrote:lol funny how you said 12 surviving people and then you go on to say you had 15 people.

You need exactly 12.

But no, don't bother trying it out or believe anyone who says otherwise. Your mind is already made up.

I've done multiple runs, in multiple servers. Is this impossible?
Guess it's one way or the other here, no other possibilities.
I have no need for a pendant regardless, as I have a 70 stat one.

Having 12 people in the map would make 0 difference.
Putting a limit of 12 rather then 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, or 18 makes no logical sense coding wise.

IF there was any intention in making it drop, it would have been 11> or not possible.

Why would it be 12.
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#58
StopMe Wrote:To further my point, the sign up even says "You have been enrolled into the Horntail squad" if you successfully make the top 30.

Lmao it says this for all squad bosses.
You're one of the greedy people in this horntail economy, unfortunate really.
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#59
StopMe Wrote:Your post was about CHT, there is no entrance glitch besides the 30 limit.
My post was about the exact same thing.

I simply pointed out that CHT does not have a glitch attached with it.



The 30 limit (Or "entrance glitch), as most regular HTers know, isn't much of a big deal as it is.
You can still solo as long as you made the list.

Partying at a boss like this is pointless. If you really want to, log in after a SC and get it done.

Again, not a glitch.
The limit was put there on purpose. People need to accept it.

To further my point, the sign up even says "You have been enrolled into the Horntail squad" if you successfully make the top 30.

Also, this 12 surviving people rumor at CHT is getting old.
We've had 15 survive and waited till the last 45 seconds to kill it; no drops.

It's logical for this to have been done. Enough CHTP's were introduced into the economy, the hammer glitch just made it worse.
I don't see how the "intended limit" you talk about stops faders. They can just afk for an hour, and then fade it.
StopMe Wrote:Windia was just as bad, until I left.
1 person gets in, you ask them to let you in. It is just that simple.

I made the cut every single time.

True, the list is full within the first hour on average, but get to know the runners and there will be no problems.

People need to quit peaching about this.
It is not a glitch.



I've done multiple runs, in multiple servers. Is this impossible?
Guess it's one way or the other here, no other possibilities.
I have no need for a pendant regardless, as I have a 70 stat one.

Having 12 people in the map would make 0 difference.
Youve never tried it with 12 people, and yet you assume it makes no difference?
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#60
Blades4hire Wrote:I don't see how the "intended limit" you talk about stops faders. They can just afk for an hour, and then fade it.

31 minutes, you need 2 people in the map to fade.
Solo =/= 2.

Locked Wrote:Lmao it says this for all squad bosses.
You're one of the greedy people in this horntail economy, unfortunate really.

Not for Zak/VL/PB/Cygnus.

Or any other boss for that matter.
Cyg drags you in, pb likewise, VL likewise, but zak is a click in.

HT economy? Are you kidding? With NX rates atm in a decent server, you'd make 200m at the most off of a HT run.

Combine that with the selling time and it's garbage.
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