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Worthyness Wrote:Or if you have funds for it: old fashioned scrolling: Buy massive amounts, scroll each one with 1 scroll. Those that didn't explode keep and fuse the ones with less slots.
Then buy another round to increase your chances of +1 shoulders, scroll each one with 1 scroll and keep the ones that didn't explode. Fuse the rest.
Once satisfied with adequate of +1s, scroll again. keep all. Attempt another round- if multiple +3s YAY. If not get the old +1s and scroll their last slot.
Potential each one with 70% or 90%
You'll get at least 1 depending on your sample size. 3 lines is a completely different story though.
That's not how fusing works. Fusing creates an entirely new item and thusly resets all scrolling.
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I think I'd rather just use the scrolls until I get all 3 to pass and then buy like 6 ish of the scrolls and wait until Shielding Wards come back and White Scroll/Ward the last 2 slots on. I really don't want to risk blowing up 2 freshly used hammers.
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Green4Ever Wrote:I think I'd rather just use the scrolls until I get all 3 to pass and then buy like 6 ish of the scrolls and wait until Shielding Wards come back and White Scroll/Ward the last 2 slots on. I really don't want to risk blowing up 2 freshly used hammers.
It'll end up costing you more on average since wards cost so much.
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happylight Wrote:It'll end up costing you more on average since wards cost so much.
and I'm perfectly okay with that.
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is it that bad to just chaos the shoulder?
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street Wrote:is it that bad to just chaos the shoulder?
Depends what you want to risk. Either boom boom or end up with the same or crap stats.
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Stereo Wrote:Cost by slot:
+1: 2 armor + 2 scrolls = 35m
+2: 2x+1 + 2 scrolls = 90m
+3: 2x+2 + 2 scrolls = 200m
+4: 2x+3 + 2 scrolls = 420m
+5: 2x+4 + 2 scrolls = 860m
Warding will cost an average of 2 wards + 2 WS = 1.3bil per slot. Not cost effective.
but that's not counting the explosion chance is it?
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iThrow13 Wrote:Depends what you want to risk. Either boom boom or end up with the same or crap stats.
its 7.5mil....lol and i just bought 140 chaos scrolls for 9.5mil each guess
my plan buy like 10 pads, scroll chaos if it fails drop it if it sux stats drop it till i get a decent one T_T
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That's pretty much how I'm going to go about doing my shoulder pads. If I get a decent one, great, but it's unlimited supply. So no worries.
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iThrow13 Wrote:That's not how fusing works. Fusing creates an entirely new item and thusly resets all scrolling.
I'm pretty sure he means that if you failed a slot (therefore leaving you with an unscrolled two slot shoulderpad), you fuse them together and get a 3 slot in return to re-scroll.
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Snor Wrote:I'm pretty sure he means that if you failed a slot (therefore leaving you with an unscrolled two slot shoulderpad), you fuse them together and get a 3 slot in return to re-scroll.
that only works with classes with that fusing ability which many people dont have on their main and since the pad is untradable...its probably easyer to just re-buy
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jhkplaya888 Wrote:that only works with classes with that fusing ability which many people dont have on their main and since the pad is untradable...its probably easyer to just re-buy
You can always restart your profession. I did that with smithing (had level 9) and moved to crafting to create shoulderpads (which won't be a business after this comes out, lol). I would agree on the part where it is probably easier to just re-buy, especially if you have a high level profession.
Quick question though since I didn't see it in this thread, how much do the 'normal' scrolls give in terms of attack? Regardless, I can put that 100% potential scroll to use now
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iFrancisco Wrote:Quick question though since I didn't see it in this thread, how much do the 'normal' scrolls give in terms of attack? Regardless, I can put that 100% potential scroll to use now  If by "Normal" you mean the ones meant for the shoulder:
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Silent Crusader Shoulder Enhancement Scroll
Grants the Splendid Silent Crusader Shoulders EXP enhancement\nSuccess Rate: 50%, All stast +2, Weapon/Magic ATT+2, Weapon/Magic+10\nIf it fails, the item has a 50% chance to be destroyed.
Sale price: 1 meso
STR: +2
DEX: +2
INT: +2
LUK: +2
Weapon Attack: +2
Magic Attack: +2
WDEF: +10
MDEF: +10
Success rate: 50%
Cursed rate: 50%
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Required Items:
Splendid Silent Crusader Shoulders
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Hmm. I think I am going to buy a good amount of these and chaos a few and scroll a couple. See how lucky I can get. Yay meso sink. They have 5slots after hammering right?
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Razmos Wrote:If by "Normal" you mean the ones meant for the shoulder:
Haha, yea. I used that because they aren't so normal! Thanks a bunch.
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In the testpia i got a belt to +3 and since the scrolls have the same rates (50% and 50% boom) then it shouldnt be to hard to get a +3 shoulderpad
i will for 1 make one with chaos and maybe or get +3 then hammer and chaos it
sucks that there untradeable i was hoping to make some mesos with these shoulder pad or stalk them for future characters (if they were untradeable after warn)
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Even without the scrolls or potential, the shoulder is already better than what i have on my Battle Mage. So this equip rules so hard.
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*Sigh*
My friend wanted the level 120 wise should pads for his Evan so bad, and needed me to make them. I literally spent all my Friday night pvping to get enough emblems. I finally do, and just before I make, I'm finally contacted about buying the Rising Sun Belt I've been after... I decide to ignore my needs, and make his emblem anyway...
Now, it's not like I, selfishly, wish I didn't make that decision already. I now know that if I hadn't, we'd have BOTH been better off. lol Awesome.
They did come out 1 above average in matt, and everything else average. So, they aren't bad, and he probably can't afford the amounts of mesos I'm about to put into this shoulder pad, not to mention the NX spent cubing this thing to hell and back.
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MaplesGrandGM Wrote:*Sigh*
My friend wanted the level 120 wise should pads for his Evan so bad, and needed me to make them. I literally spent all my Friday night pvping to get enough emblems. I finally do, and just before I make, I'm finally contacted about buying the Rising Sun Belt I've been after... I decide to ignore my needs, and make his emblem anyway...
Now, it's not like I, selfishly, wish I didn't make that decision already. I now know that if I hadn't, we'd have BOTH been better off. lol Awesome.
They did come out 1 above average in matt, and everything else average. So, they aren't bad, and he probably can't afford the amounts of mesos I'm about to put into this shoulder pad, not to mention the NX spent cubing this thing to hell and back. Your friend sounds like a selfish douche.
The 120 Shoulderpads are an absolute waste.
Go 110 for tradeability or 130 for extra attack.
You(he) got lucky that it came out one above average.
Whatever the angle, you got ripped off.
- You could have easily sold that shoulderpad and ended up with enough money for him to make an even better one in a few days.
- Those emblems could have been used or saved for plenty of better investments. Or, ya know, wait until Jump to just buy the Rising Sun recipes.
- Your friend invested absolutely nothing in nor gave nothing back.
Really though, I hardly can feel sorry for anyone who invested in shoulderpads recently.
For one, you made the shoulderpad on Friday, but we've known about the next patch since Tuesday.
Plus, come on, I couldn't be the only one who predicted that the 5th Chaos would introduce an equip that would totally outdo everything currently available in that category?
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about that last part viaje, don't forget it's nexon, we were expecting something shitty as their exclusive (and we were right) what we didn't expect was the best shoulderpad possible, when the main point of pvp was precisely, making these shoulderpads
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