Final Fantasy XIII-2 at E3

Meh, it's the same spam "X" no freedom game the first game was.

Yeah you can totally tell that from the 3 minutes of gameplay we've seen.

Meh, it's the same spam "X" no freedom game the first game was.

You just described every main series Final Fantasy game.

You just described every main series Final Fantasy game.

He just described every RPG in itself :|

Crystogen? Is that some new final fantasy hormone?

too early to tell if they actually learned from their mistakes but hey they managed to put in moogles at least

You just described every main series Final Fantasy game.

He just described every RPG in itself :|

Come now. Granted no game in the world offers real freedom, it is ever an illusion. But what RPGs normaly do (if they are any good) is offer a well made illusion of a vast world in which you are in different degrees free to explore. The latest FF fail miserably in that regard, and it is a valid concern towards the sequel. Calling every RPG ever made linnear when comparing the old classics with the new pomegranate they label RPG (like the latest FF) is just ignorant.

Come now. Granted no game in the world offers real freedom, it is ever an illusion. But what RPGs normaly do (if they are any good) is offer a well made illusion of a vast world in which you are in different degrees free to explore. The latest FF fail miserably in that regard, and it is a valid concern towards the sequel. Calling every RPG ever made linnear when comparing the old classics with the new pomegranate they label RPG (like the latest FF) is just ignorant.

It doesn't change the fact that you mostly press one button.

It doesn't change the fact that you mostly press one button.

I was not focusing on the button comment since it is highly irrelevant, which ever stance you take about the FF series. Number of buttons used in a game is not a quality marker.

I was not focusing on the button comment since it is highly irrelevant, which ever stance you take about the FF series. Number of buttons used in a game is not a quality marker.

Apparently it is if it warrants some kind of criticism from that guy.

I was not focusing on the button comment since it is highly irrelevant, which ever stance you take about the FF series. Number of buttons used in a game is not a quality marker.

the press x to win is a fail comment, and should be ignored, what you are complaining though, is the same thing that annoyed everyone, game is a freaking tunnel, there's a way in, and a way out, nothing more.

that until chapter 11 i believe, chapter 11 was beautiful, and it's what the darned game should have been like.

Xenogears would've been the closest I've seen to having multiple buttons equally pressed. It happens to have been a great game, but that doesn't mean much.

Judging by the comments in this thread, I do feel like giving it a try, though I didn't particularly enjoy anything from FFX onwards, I'm not so very inclined.

the press x to win is a fail comment, and should be ignored, what you are complaining though, is the same thing that annoyed everyone, game is a freaking tunnel, there's a way in, and a way out, nothing more.

that until chapter 11 i believe, chapter 11 was beautiful, and it's what the darned game should have been like.

The only criticisms I have for the game is similar; there's just nothing to do in the game besides run straight through it sans chapter 11 and 13. And by the time I did get to chapter 11 I was already stuck in "get to the exclamation mark" mode and I didn't even realize I could explore until chapter 13.

Another thing was that it's impossible to go back to areas basically 90% of the game without starting a new game. It is such a shame because many of the areas are very nice to look at. But then again there's literally nothing to do in these areas so it's not worth the second play through.

I didn't mind pressing x rapidly at all. However, I think if the gameplay was based on only the last 3 or 4 chapters, it would have been almost perfect. The pacing from chapters 1-9 was ridiculously slow. It would have done the story good if all the characters met up in the first 2 or 3 chapters instead of jumping around so much.

story-wise, the 1-9 chapters were pretty good, gameplay wise, they were utter garbage. the fighting system was ok-ish. as in it's the same as FF5 and so, but with a twist, so i can't really say much.

but i swear, when i saw the vast plains in ch 11 i really went "finally" beautiful game from that point on.

"Linear, linear, linear", says Motomu Toriyama. As director of Final Fantasy XIII, it's a word that wasn't even in his vocabulary until a whirlwind press tour that saw critics and fans constantly questioning the new direction for the series. It's a criticism that Toriyama and producer Yoshinori Kitase don't want repeated for the sequel Final Fantasy XIII-2. They've been working on a host of new gameplay mechanics for XIII-2, all intended to move the game from a "story-driven" experience, to a "player-driven" one. We got taste of these changes in our hands-on at E3, where we jumped back into the stunning world of Pulse, and got a glimpse of the new fully-armoured Lightning in action.

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Our hands-on began with a short cut scene, introducing us to new character Noel. Dressed in harem pants and wielding a pair of swords, he cut an imposing figure as he jumped across the screen to join his pink-haired companion Serah. A huge hand then rose out of the ground, smashing the surrounding scenery, and letting us know the pair were on the run. That hand was attached to a semi-invisible giant called Atlas, who the pair subsequently faced in battle. Joining them was a Moogle, which transformed into a weapon that Serah could wield.

Atlas' size meant he barely fit on the screen, dwarfing the heroes who stood at his feet. It was here that we got to grips with the battle system. It remains largely unchanged from that of XIII, making use of a paradigm switching system that let us change the role of our characters during battle. Defensive paradigms let us block and heal, while offensive ones let us unleash a string of strong attacks. Switching between them effectively remains key to winning battles, and it wasn't long before we had worn down Atlas' health bar.

Before we could finish him off, a cut-scene began, showing a group of large vehicles flying overhead. This showcased a new feature called Live Trigger. Cut scenes now feature quick time events, such as having to hammer the A button repeatedly, or twist the analogue sticks in certain directions. Depending on if you perform the action correctly or not, the cut scene plays out in different ways. While you can't fail as such, the path of the storyline changes giving you multiple paths to play through. On this occasion, we successfully performed the QTE, causing the ships to fire at Atlas and send him back into the ground from which he emerged.

It wasn't the end of Atlas, however, and the rumbling of his movements beneath the ground let us know there was still work to be done. We moved forward to investigate a set of ruins, which were drenched in water from a thunderstorm. The weather effects looked beautiful, with each drop of rain causing reflections of light to bounce around the surrounding rubble and buildings. Like XIII, there are numerous enemies to fight along any given path. Walking into them initiated a battle, but with a twist. Before the fight, a clock appeared on screen with a fast-moving ticking hand, which we had to try and stop in a green section of the clock. Doing so gave us an advantage in battle, which in this case was a pre-emptive strike. We were told stopping the clock in a yellow area would result in no advantages to our team, while stopping it in a red area would result in a penalty.

After defeating a pair of floppy flan opponents, we received a crystal. In subsequent battles we could use that crystal to summon flan and have it fight on our side, which could prove useful if your team is weakened, or you're down a member. Moving further into the ruins we noticed that our character now had the ability to jump, allowing us to reach different areas of the map and discover secret pathways. Our Moogle helped out too, using a special power to help us uncover a stash of hidden treasure. After a brief cut-scene Atlas reappeared, and he didn't look happy. It was here our heroes heard of an ancient controller that could possibly deactivate or control Atlas. We were given the option of trying to find the controller in the ruins, asking our Moogle for advice, or tackling Atlas head-on. We decided to tackle the giant, which proved a costly mistake as his superior level destroyed our entire team with one hit.

Loading the previous checkpoint, we decided the more sensible option might be to try and find the ancient controller within the temple. We were told that it is possible to defeat Atlas without finding the controller, but it would have required a team with much higher levels. After making our way through a grimy tunnel we discovered the controller, but before we could activate it, Atlas' giant hand appeared, pulling us into a vortex. This took us to an area called The Void Beyond, a space-like area filled with a number of red platforms. To leave the area we had to solve some simple puzzles using the platforms, collecting crystals scattered across them. Each time we stepped on a platform, it disappeared shortly after, so we had to figure out the best way to collect all the crystals without falling into the deep abyss of space below us. These small puzzle sections are littered throughout the game, which Square Enix told us were intended to break up the action.

After collecting all the crystals we were transported back to the real world, where we could activate the controller. This caused Atlas to change colour, and suddenly start behaving strangely. Moving back out of the ruins to the surface we faced him once more. This time, his attacks were significantly weaker and his health bar had been halved. He was also much easier to stagger, letting us unleash a barrage of attacks and eventually take him down.

While that was the end of our hands-on, Square Enix showed us another section of the game, this time featuring XIII's heroine Lightning. The level opened with Lightning falling from the sky and landing on Odin, all while being chased by a very angry looking Bahamut. As Bahamut launched energy projectiles and vicious looking swipes at the fleeing Lightning, the camera swept across the scene, showcasing the beautiful ruins of a city in the stormy background. Lightning continued to fight off Bahamut from atop Odin, with her new suit of armour protecting her from attacks. We noticed that Lightning's health, attack power, and level were much higher than those of the characters we saw earlier. Square Enix told us that she starts the game at a much higher level than the others--a concession to the fact that her heroic deeds saved the world in the last game, and as such she is already extremely powerful.

Our time with Lightning was even briefer than that of our hands-on, and so the demo ended there. The numerous changes to the game were a lot to take in, in particular the QTEs, which are no doubt going to be a divisive new feature for fans. Giving the player more choice is a nice idea, though, and the multiple paths, plots, and puzzle sections all go some way towards making the game feel less restrictive than its predecessor. We were also promised that speaking to NPCs in towns would present multiple options for dialogue, allowing players to discover hidden side quests and secret items. More minigames were promised too, though sadly Toriyama and Kitase weren't giving anything away at this stage. Whether all the new features will banish linear criticisms remains to be seen, but with a release date of early next year on Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, we'll be sure to get a further look at Final Fantasy XIII-2 before its release.

summons O.o?

>Bahamut

Okay what is this. I demand answers.

They're both in the trailer at around 1:30

>Bahamut

Okay what is this. I demand answers.

probably meant behemoth? haven't seen the video, lagged too hard.

yeah i read a hands on preview from kotaku and they said the same things as gamespot pretty much. like my previous post on the ff13 topic, it's likely that since with the sequel, you are no longer on the run from everything, it would make a lot of sense if there was some "hub" to fall back to to get new quests and upgrade and what not. that would be neat if they were to do that imo

monsters gotta catch'em all