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It's the experience. Sarah dislikes anime so of course she's against something like this.
Talking to my friend today about it to show how many hypocrites I have to deal with on a daily basis-
"Hey man, what were you saying on facebook yesterday?"
"Uh.. Miku Hatsune thing? Or something else?"
"Yeah that thing, anime?"
"Yeah, she's performing at Anime Expo as a musical guest. They CGI her onto stage using both holograms and transparent screens while a band plays beside her and sometimes the singer is actually in the back while her voice is synthesized live. It's really interesting when you think about it"
"That sounds f'ucking stupid actually hahaha."
"Yeah, well everyone has different tastes and things. You like the Gorillaz don't you?"
"You know I do."
"Well it's f'ucking stupid that they performed with Madonna the same way huh? It's not like people pour thousands of dollars into seeing them live or anything right? How about you tell me how much a ticket to a Gorillaz show is? 50 dollars? Maybe even 30 dollars? And that is what? Way in the back? Yeah, I'm paying 15 bucks to see an American debut and knowing Japan the technology will probably be double the amount the Gorillaz use."
-silence-
Piece of s'hit. Anyways, I'm going to enjoy it because I enjoy Miku Hatsune. Not because I enjoy sweat from people on my face.
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CommanderJinn Wrote:People just don't get that Miku's just a voice for the lyricist and composers out there
PEOPLE JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE THING I LIKE! HOW COULD THEY MAKE FUN OF IT, IT IS SO GENIUS AND SMART THAT THEIR PUNY MINDS CAN UNDERSTAND IT LIKE I UNDERSTAND IT!
NOBODY UNDERSTANDS IT!
CommanderJinn Wrote:Well, there's still a human singing behind the autotune...
Real people voice Vocaloid as well.
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Sarah Wrote:You people are really spending money to see a computer sing?
They are spending money for the experience of seeing something they enjoy live.
Sarah Wrote:No at a concert you can actually meet the person and get their autograph.
No, at a concert you're there to listen to the singing. An autograph is a bonus. And who is to say there won't be autographs at this thing?
Sarah Wrote:They can't even look you in the eyes.
Yes it can.
Sarah Wrote:It is literally exactly the same as listening to it from your computer.
Same goes for concerts by real singers.
Sarah Wrote:I wouldn't even be skeptical if people were going to the expo for anime but at least two people in this thread said they bought tickets when they found out this was happening. Doesn't make sense to me.
For the experience of something they enjoy.
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Anime Expo o.o I said that lol.
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Sarah Wrote:You people are really spending money to see a computer sing?
Is it a computer or a voice actor?
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GMSInfighter Wrote:Anime Expo o.o I said that lol.
Where, not what the expo is. Like where the bloody f'uck is the expo going to be at.
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Moonlapse Wrote:Is it a computer or a voice actor?
Both, in a way.
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Derosis Wrote:Where, not what the expo is. Like where the bloody f'uck is the expo going to be at.
Los Angeles, California.
http://www.anime-expo.org/
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MetaSeraphim Wrote:PEOPLE JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE THING I LIKE! HOW COULD THEY MAKE FUN OF IT, IT IS SO GENIUS AND SMART THAT THEIR PUNY MINDS CAN UNDERSTAND IT LIKE I UNDERSTAND IT!
NOBODY UNDERSTANDS IT!
Real people voice Vocaloid as well.
Well, I meant my first comment to respond to the artistic criticism out there that Miku is the equivalent of a computer replacing real singers. It's just that, in my opinion, Miku is to real singers as a synth is to a grand piano.
And to the second comment, I mean that there's someone literally singing behind the autotune, while Vocaloid music is built from the lyrics up.
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sicnarf Wrote:Los Angeles, California.
http://www.anime-expo.org/
And it's there every year.
Just for the record, there are other concerts, usually 5~10 big ones with tickets. So far only ones announced have been miku and kalafina, which me and my brother both have tickets to. I wanna go more just to see what it's all about.
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So, im planning on going to AX now, anyone know what day the Miku concert is supposed to be?
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Sn1perJohnE Wrote:So, im planning on going to AX now, anyone know what day the Miku concert is supposed to be?
July 2nd, saturday. Event runs from july 1-4 so it's the 2nd day. You pick up pre-order tickets on june 30th, that thursday right before. If you wanna save yourself some headache, get there really early. If you get there when they open up pick up, you're gonna have to wait in line about 3~5 hours. I'm not 100% sure how concert tickets will work, but I know when I got some last year after my friends, we were seated differently while they were all seated together, as a first come, first served basis. Either the seats are first come first serve when you go and pick them up in person, or they're based on who bought tickets online first.
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GMSInfighter Wrote:It's the experience. Sarah dislikes anime so of course she's against something like this. Has nothing to do with it being anime. If my favourite band were going to put on a holographic show from a thousand miles away I wouldn't go to it, either, and would question those who chose to. Yes, live music is good (wasn't aware there would actually be any, thought it would all be synthesized via computer like the girl) but a major part of the concert experience is the excitement of being in the presence of the real person and perhaps even connecting with them for a moment.
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When it comes to a concert like this, there's also getting to know like-minded people who are interested in the content. It's like going to an expo.
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Sarah Wrote:Has nothing to do with it being anime. If my favourite band were going to put on a holographic show from a thousand miles away I wouldn't go to it, either, and would question those who chose to. Yes, live music is good (wasn't aware there would actually be any, thought it would all be synthesized via computer like the girl) but a major part of the concert experience is the excitement of being in the presence of the real person and perhaps even connecting with them for a moment.
I can understand the argument from someone who is thousands of miles away. I'm, however, 45 minutes away. So it's not as big of a deal to me as it is to others. I would not see this if it were in San Francisco or something like that which is 8 hours away. So in that sense, I agree with you Sarah. But I'm not gonna sit there and question someone because they want to travel out a little ways to go see something they really enjoy.
To go off a previous post. You can buy the tickets and if you are going with a group it's recommended to buy them in bulk (one person) cause the tickets are first come, first serve basis on PICK-UP. So if you want to be with your friends in adjacent seating, you'll both need to be in line with each other. It kind of sucks if they are coming from other areas than you, but it's not hard to work around.
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I've travelled from Toronto to Tokyo to see my favourite person performing. Was going to do it again this year if it weren't for the earthquake.
That being said, GDI I WANT TO SEE MIKU TOO. щ(゚Д゚щ
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raizoo Wrote:I've travelled from Toronto to Tokyo to see my favourite person performing. Was going to do it again this year if it weren't for the earthquake.
That being said, GDI I WANT TO SEE MIKU TOO. щ(゚Д゚щ
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GMSInfighter Wrote:I can understand the argument from someone who is thousands of miles away. I'm, however, 45 minutes away. So it's not as big of a deal to me as it is to others. I would not see this if it were in San Francisco or something like that which is 8 hours away. So in that sense, I agree with you Sarah. But I'm not gonna sit there and question someone because they want to travel out a little ways to go see something they really enjoy.
To go off a previous post. You can buy the tickets and if you are going with a group it's recommended to buy them in bulk (one person) cause the tickets are first come, first serve basis on PICK-UP. So if you want to be with your friends in adjacent seating, you'll both need to be in line with each other. It kind of sucks if they are coming from other areas than you, but it's not hard to work around.
I think you misunderstood what I said about the thousand miles. I was stating that the artist may as well be a thousand miles away, not that traveling a thousand miles to see something was bad. I HAVE traveled long distances to see a live show and find the experience (based on the previous reasons I've provided) to be entirely worth it.
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