Nintendo's New Console

Honestly if no one has said it before there is no such thing as casual or hardcore gamers everyone who plays games is a gamer silly arguments. Also a lot of good 3rd party wii games are out there you just have to look a bit you know.

You obviously have no idea how the world of gaming works if you truly believe that. Of course there are "hardcore" and "casual" gamers. I am NOT the same kind of gamer as a person who pops in Wii Sports Resort once a week because they like to bowl. Seriously, your reply couldn't be further from the truth. The reason "no one has said it before" is because what you say is bogus. The entire world knows the difference between a "hardcore" and "casual" gamer. Get with the program.

And yes, we all know good third party games exist and that you have to look to find them. >_>

Honestly if no one has said it before there is no such thing as casual or hardcore gamers everyone who plays games is a gamer silly arguments. Also a lot of good 3rd party wii games are out there you just have to look a bit you know.

So there's no difference between professionals who play their game 24/7 as training and a senior citizen who plays some game because their grandkid showed it to them?

Solid logic here.

So there's no difference between professionals who play their game 24/7 as training and a senior citizen who plays some game because their grandkid showed it to them?

Solid logic here.

Hardcore =/= pro at any rate. I made the distinction pretty clearly a page or so ago. Hardcore is a mindset, not a skill level. Most hardcore gamers are generally FPS obsessed scrubs.

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Hardcore =/= pro at any rate. I made the distinction pretty clearly a page or so ago. Hardcore is a mindset, not a skill level. Most hardcore gamers are generally FPS obsessed scrubs.

What do you mean by generally?

Do the individuals that populate MMORPGs not come to mind or those who perfect combo's on Fighting games like street fighter? I don't deny there are "hardcore" FPS fans but saying that's the "general" population seems a bit BS.

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Brilliant and true.

Also why do people keep generalizing that Nintendo is unable to bring in good third party games? The Wii may suck a ton of donkey plantain but the DS has the best NATIVE gaming library for this gen. Nintendo has no problem with getting good games to be made it's just that Wii is pretty terrible and no one wants to develop for it because it's so casual.

Not quite. No-one wants to develop for the wii because of shitty work on the part of retailers: They stocked tons and tons of shovelware, inevitably that ship doesn't sail very far, but by not stocking the games that don't suck, or at best sticking them in between a pile of absolute crap, no-one can find them, and people don't go there anymore looking for them.

I know its not a wii title, but when retailers refused to stock Okamiden (This might only have been a UK thing) in store, you know something is fucked up. Retailers seriously don't want your game unless its a FPS, "hardcore", or "casual". And yes, there are lots of games that don't fit in either of the very small definitions of hardcore and casual.

Hardcore =/= pro at any rate. I made the distinction pretty clearly a page or so ago. Hardcore is a mindset, not a skill level. Most hardcore gamers are generally FPS obsessed scrubs.

Point taken, however are you claiming professionals do not have that mindset? That the grandpa doesn't have the mindset of a casual gamer and therefore is part of the hardcore crowd? If he isn't a casual, then what is he?

Not all hardcore players are professionals, just like not all gamers are casual. I simply took two extremes of the spectrum to prove my point; that there is a difference between hardcore and casual. A point that it seems we both fundamentally agree on.

Brilliant and true.

Not sure if people are seeing this as good or bad, but it's interesting, at least, to see how they are trying to improve... Over themselves, not others.

Over themselves, not others.

I never thought of it that way even after seeing that picture. Definitely shows that Nintendo is just so successful for this reason. Thanks for the perspective, bro.

Point taken, however are you claiming professionals do not have that mindset? That the grandpa doesn't have the mindset of a casual gamer and therefore is part of the hardcore crowd? If he isn't a casual, then what is he?

Not all hardcore players are professionals, just like not all gamers are casual. I simply took two extremes of the spectrum to prove my point; that there is a difference between hardcore and casual. A point that it seems we both fundamentally agree on.

hardcore isn't the only mindset, nor is casual. i'm just making the distinction that they are in fact, mindsets and not skill levels. yes most pros have a hardcore mindset. i've met various examples of and in many ways am the exception to this.

At first i was going to ask what other kind of mindsets there are as if hardcore and casual aren't general enough in definition as it is, but then i realized that there is a spectrum to both. So that just leaves me with...what kind of person who plays video games would you lump in neither the hardcore crowd nor the casual crowd?

I can't seem to find any post about this so..

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Weirdos all I said is anyone who plays video games is a gamer the hardcore and casual crap was made by morons who didn't want to be connected to people slightly unlike them just like we humans separate ourselves into categories yet we are all just humans. Everyone can have their own opinion though which is why the world is so interesting and in a way everything is true.

Weirdos all I said is anyone who plays video games is a gamer the hardcore and casual crap was made by morons who didn't want to be connected to people slightly unlike them just like we humans separate ourselves into categories yet we are all just humans. Everyone can have their own opinion though which is why the world is so interesting and in a way everything is true.

Within any activity exist a spectrum. Depending where you fall on that spectrum determines you're classification. It's like this: weather you play grade school T-ball or College Baseball you're still an athlete, however you'd consider the college baseball player on an entirely different level of the grade school student. Now you may be thinking that my comparison seems a bit off because there's a clear distinction between a t-ball player and a College Baseball player, though you have to ask "Why?". The college level player has put in more time and more energy then the general t-ball player... now I have to ask why that does not cover gamers? I've seen people spend thousands of dollars, an un-godly amount of research, and using a near insane amount of time... Does that not deserve a title, does that not differentiate from the common gamer? It's not a matter of dissociation, it's a matter of respecting the amount of time and energy a person has invested into a particular activity, idea, etc.

Also why do you call the people that think that way, "morons", and then say everything they say is true?

At first i was going to ask what other kind of mindsets there are as if hardcore and casual aren't general enough in definition as it is, but then i realized that there is a spectrum to both. So that just leaves me with...what kind of person who plays video games would you lump in neither the hardcore crowd nor the casual crowd?

Do you take every game you play seriously?

That should answer your question.

Do you take every game you play seriously?

That should answer your question.

I don't see taking a hobby seriously as a bad thing and neither should you. It doesn't answer my question so much as it shows me you can't follow through with an argument without thinking the other person is out to get you and so you eventually retaliate. Doesn't seem like i'm the one taking things too seriously here.

I don't see taking a hobby seriously as a bad thing and neither should you. It doesn't answer my question so much as it shows me you can't follow through with an argument without thinking the other person is out to get you and so you eventually retaliate. Doesn't seem like i'm the one taking things too seriously here.

No. You're just missing the point and reading too much into it/getting frustrated (if i'm reading this properly). I'm not being curt, nor am i upset. I don't get upset about things like this. I'm just answering the question you asked. Most people aren't consistently one or the other. It is a sliding scale. I'm not bashing anyone or people who take hobbies seriously (i have no idea where you are getting this from). I was just trying to get you to consider the way you treat games in general. People aren't necessarily one or the other (hardcore vs. casual) at all times. Everyone has the potential to be both and can swing from one to the other at any time or for any game. What I am asking or trying to get you to consider, said as explicitly as I can, is do you approach or play all games every time you play them with the same mindset? Realistically the answer is no. That is the answer to players who aren't necessarily hardcore or casual. I am hardcore for one game and one game only. Everything else is casual play to me. I am well above the average player at many games, but I still take all but one of them as just games.

You're looking too hard to be offended man. I'm not here to insult you. Even if I were it seems like you let it get to you way too much. It seems to me that a lot of the time i'm responding to you that you are completely misconstruing something and taking it as some sort of slight, it just isn't a good way to discuss things.

The name for the new console has been "leaked" and has been dubbed "Feel" and will include haptic controls.

After Touch will Feel
We have already heard that Nintendo will develop a controller with built-in screen. Since the information is leaked, it has drawn parallels to both Apple iPad and how Nintendo used the Game Boy Advance hand control to a few Gamecube games. But the new screen controller has another dimension – convey the sense of touch. Our source using the working title of Nintendo Feel .

Haptic technology is a form of tactile feedback Used To Simulate the experience of Different objects best moments on screen. The player cannabis move Their fingertips across a surface and Clearly Feel the Difference Between Soft, smooth or rugged texture. Electronic companies across the World Have Been Conducting research in this field for years. It’s Been That rumored Apple is close to patenting a similar technology, and we’ve seen the Toshiba demonstration of ‘New Sensation UI Solution’ That Applies a thin film over a screen in order to Achieve a haptic effect. In Nintendo’s case, this is a natural progression of Both the Nintendo DS touch screen & the Wii technology.

And sure, anyone can imagine what the feeling of furry coat against the fingertips would make for Nintendogs. One need not be especially familiar with The Legend of Zelda for the understanding of the fantastic in order to draw patterns in the sand, feel the coolness from the river, burn on lava or perceiving structures of the bark of an old tree.

But at the same time, Nintendo Feel an experience you will not want to explain in words, but just put in the hands of the player. Which probably explains why Nintendo chose to have playable demos at E3, with in June, although the finished console not being launched until 2012.

- Swedish website, Loaded

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"They player cannabis move Their finger tips across a surface Clearly Feel the Difference Between Soft, smooth or rugged texture"

What a poorly structured sentence, haha.