Born Dis Wei.

http://perezhilton.com/2011-02-11-lady-g...iere-debut
Dunno what to think.

I like it.
[video=youtube;NEKhgUT_3mg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEKhgUT_3mg[/video]

love love love

Sounds like total crap to be perfectly honest.

It sounds so bad mostly because it sounds like some local DJ remixed it already, throwing in just random noises and calling it a club hit. The type of song that it is I expected it to be much slower-paced than this.

I prefer the original.
[video=youtube;12wP5W2R0wY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12wP5W2R0wY[/video]



Born This Way is mediocre. Gaga shot herself in the foot by overhyping it. Album of the decade...lolplz.


EDIT: Chola? Is she serious? That's so offensive...

I agree though, this could have been executed better. Like.. less of a dance party song.

Born This Way is mediocre. Gaga shot herself in the foot by overhyping it. Album of the decade...lolplz.

EDIT: Chola? Is she serious? That's so offensive...

Objective comments:

1.) This is the first single off a 20 track album. You can think it sucks, but 1/20th of an album can suck and it can still be the album of the decade. Wait till May 23rd. Though I agree hyping it as such so early is exceedingly overzealous, especially underscored by the fact that it's 2011. I mean, if she had made that claim at the beginning of 2019 perhaps it would have been more legit, but yeah.

2.) Is it similar to Express Yourself? Definitely? A carbon copy at any part? Not at all. If people compare it to Madonna's track they might as well cite self-plagarism as well, as Gaga has a lot of monotone chanting sections in Born This Way reminiscent of Dance in the Dark, which you could, of course, say is plagarism again off Madonna's Vogue. There's a fine line between "inspired by" and "plagarized," and I definitely agree Gaga comes closer to it than most, but I personally don't believe she crossed it with this track. Enough of it is very different.

3.) You're upset by the usage of "chola," yet "nigga" is used extensively in rap/hip-hop and no one gives a damn. Just saying.

Objective comments:


3.) You're upset by the usage of "chola," yet "nigga" is used extensively in rap/hip-hop and no one gives a damn. Just saying.

I'm no one then...

Objective comments:

1.) This is the first single off a 20 track album. You can think it sucks, but 1/20th of an album can suck and it can still be the album of the decade. Wait till May 23rd. Though I agree hyping it as such so early is exceedingly overzealous, especially underscored by the fact that it's 2011. I mean, if she had made that claim at the beginning of 2019 perhaps it would have been more legit, but yeah.

2.) Is it similar to Express Yourself? Definitely? A carbon copy at any part? Not at all. If people compare it to Madonna's track they might as well cite self-plagarism as well, as Gaga has a lot of monotone chanting sections in Born This Way reminiscent of Dance in the Dark, which you could, of course, say is plagarism again off Madonna's Vogue. There's a fine line between "inspired by" and "plagarized," and I definitely agree Gaga comes closer to it than most, but I personally don't believe she crossed it with this track. Enough of it is very different.

3.) You're upset by the usage of "chola," yet "nigga" is used extensively in rap/hip-hop and no one gives a damn. Just saying.

I actually like the song, especially after listening to it on repeat a few times. It's just kinda disappointing in my opinion, at least in comparison to her last singles. Bad Romance was EPIC and refreshing. This sounds a little dated. It's also a little too gay for my tastes. As a straight fan of hers, I know I won't be blasting this in my car. I realize that there are 19 other tracks to listen to, but lead singles tend to be the best song off the album. Do I think it will be a good album? Yes. Album of the Decade? lolno.

The only reason I pointed out the Madonna similarity was because GaGa fans love to think that everything she does is original. It's annoying. These days, when a female artist does something outlandish, they're "copying" GaGa, yet when GaGa blatantly copies from her predecessors, she is "paying homage".

3. That's not the same thing. Having a white woman, born into privileged and wealthy family, use such a degrading term is offensive. She is grouping all Hispanic females as Cholas in a song that is supposed to be about loving yourself and equality. Same with the term "Orient" to refer to Asians and grouping middle easterns as "Lebanese". Tupac said in a documentary the excessive use of the n-word was because the term, at least to Rappers, now means buddy, or friend, while the term used by anyone else can be taken for that or as an insult. Early hip-hop artists were simply changing something bad to something good for themselves. Also notice how no mainstream white rapper (well, these days that's only Eminem) has ever used the n-word.

Don't know how you can HEAR that something is a "massive hit".

Herded sheep are funny.

Objective comments:

1.) This is the first single off a 20 track album. You can think it sucks, but 1/20th of an album can suck and it can still be the album of the decade. Wait till May 23rd.

Point is that it's the -first- single from the new album, and for it to be such a poor one it doesn't give much hope for the rest of the album. Singles are what attract people to the artist and buy the album in the first place; it's what's played on the radio, TV, etc.

It's the same thing as making a bad first impression because, well, that's what it is. The rest of the album -might- be decent or great, but right now it's starting off crappy.

Edit - @Bribery:
Ugh! I've -always- hated hearing the word ''orient'', or ''oriental'', and I'm not even Asian whatsoever. Always seemed like such a terrible word since I relate it to images of those old time-y racists from, like, a hundred years ago or something.

Point is that it's the -first- single from the new album, and for it to be such a poor one it doesn't give much hope for the rest of the album. Singles are what attract people to the artist and buy the album in the first place; it's what's played on the radio, TV, etc.

It's the same thing as making a bad first impression because, well, that's what it is. The rest of the album -might- be decent or great, but right now it's starting off crappy.

Artists ALWAYS debut their "meh" songs first. Always. Everyone always uses this argument when a new single comes out from an album to be released at a later date and their opinions are usually revised upon release.

I miss the strong presence of her voice over the background song/music. Bad Romance you can hear her voice way better.

I simply can't stand songs in which the vocals are much lower than the instruments.

Artists ALWAYS debut their "meh" songs first. Always.

No.

No.

Yes. It's a marketing strategy. Doing it the other way around would kill hype and sales by the time the album was released.

Yes. It's a marketing strategy. Doing it the other way around would kill hype and sales by the time the album was released.

Go back to 4chan, seriously.

What's a 4chan?

I actually like the song, especially after listening to it on repeat a few times. It's just kinda disappointing in my opinion, at least in comparison to her last singles. Bad Romance was EPIC and refreshing. This sounds a little dated. It's also a little too gay for my tastes. As a straight fan of hers, I know I won't be blasting this in my car. I realize that there are 19 other tracks to listen to, but lead singles tend to be the best song off the album. Do I think it will be a good album? Yes. Album of the Decade? lolno.

The only reason I pointed out the Madonna similarity was because GaGa fans love to think that everything she does is original. It's annoying. These days, when a female artist does something outlandish, they're "copying" GaGa, yet when GaGa blatantly copies from her predecessors, she is "paying homage".

3. That's not the same thing. Having a white woman, born into privileged and wealthy family, use such a degrading term is offensive. She is grouping all Hispanic females as Cholas in a song that is supposed to be about loving yourself and equality. Same with the term "Orient" to refer to Asians and grouping middle easterns as "Lebanese". Tupac said in a documentary the excessive use of the n-word was because the term, at least to Rappers, now means buddy, or friend, while the term used by anyone else can be taken for that or as an insult. Early hip-hop artists were simply changing something bad to something good for themselves. Also notice how no mainstream white rapper (well, these days that's only Eminem) has ever used the n-word.

I guess I'm just different than you, brah, when it comes to singles, as, even though I love Bad Romance, my favorite track off The Fame Monster is Telephone. My point is that while, yes, I agree Bad Romance was a better single than Born This Way, singles are not always indicative of the quality of the succeeding album.

On top of that, music is completely dynamic, and songs that were once great die out and, most importantly, the vice versa, that songs that were once downplayed become enormous hits. A perfect example of this would be Katy Perry's Teenage Dream, where the first single off the album was Teenage Dream itself (iirc); it was either that or California Gurls. Point is that both were released as singles, and everyone loves them. But check the iTunes charts - what's the one song still in the Top 10 from that album that people adore, and didn't really make into a big hit until recently? Firework. And I'm sure many of you can think of examples from more classic albums of the 70s-90s that have made resurgances in the past decade.

The bottom line is that you can't judge a book by it's cover, or an album by its first single. Does that mean we can't prep our judgmental criticsm with a first taste? Not at all. People should always be critical of new things, but shouldn't also shut their minds off to the rest of the meal if they don't absolutely love the first bite. Want a more relevant example to this forum? How many people hated Big Bang, or any of the last few major patches, when the first extraction notes were released from a first patch? Definitely a lot, especially Magicians petitioning to quit with their new cooldowns. Then pomegranate got fixed and everything's hunky dory.

So "Album of the Decade?" It definitely could be, but I'll bet my money alongside you that the answer is "lolno," not because the first single wasn't unbelievably epic, but because we still have 9 years of musical creation to go.

Completely agree with bolded.

>Album of the decade

This is what Gaga fans actually believe.

*snip*

I guess that's a good way to put it. I'm still looking forward to the album, but I wish she didn't hype the single as much as she did because that only lead to disappointment. Speaking of Firework, that's another reason I'm not really liking Born This Way. There have been so many "love yourself" songs lately: We R Who We R, Just the Way You Are, Firework, Raise Your Glass, F**kin Perfect etc. It's such a played-out theme.



PS - What's a "Subway Kid"? :f6: